About the switch to MPI

OLD FART · Post by **OLD FART** » Wed May 18, 2011 6:24 pm

My tuner who is a Haltec distributor when asked if I should upgrade to a Platinum 1000 said my E6X could handle everything that my motor needed and to save my money.I guess that another tuner may have not been so straight with me and recomended the newer computer to make a sale.

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Wed May 18, 2011 7:05 pm

a computer from the 90s such as an ems dual sport will make the same amount of power on the dyno for any given engine configuration as a brand spanking new state of the art computer that costs 5 grand or whatever..

the difference is in the extra features you get and the delivery of that power - e.g. the newer computers will have bells and whistles like fly by wire throttle control, better idle control and will also perhaps give better economy and efficiency due to higher map resolutions etc.

this is why so many people say stay away fro microtech blah blah while so many others say microtech for life blah blah ( LOL ). A car with a microtech computer can still make bucketloads of power, not to mention the cost is much less than say a haltech. It'd just be that the haltech has a magnificent array of features that you'll never use..

it's the same way with desktop computers and laptops.. i've seen people go to harvey norman and pay 7000 dollars for a computer used for nothing more than to check email and write stuff in microsoft word and then print said stuff.

check the feature list and compare the stuff that you WON'T be using to the price tag. If you can get everything you will use in a cheaper computer, then what you get bears more on how deep your pockets are than to how fast you want to go.

jwebb2876 · Post by **jwebb2876** » Thu May 19, 2011 12:11 am

Microwrecks have a bad habit of dropping tunes when not programmed right, and their customer service and after-sale support is atrocious, hence why so many people steer clear.

1320ft · Post by **1320ft** » Thu May 19, 2011 8:50 am

Well microleb's are so simple, that's why so many people use them. 99% of the street driven rotors in syd have them. Along with most of the fast vl's etc.

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Thu May 19, 2011 12:19 pm

5 out of the 7 people I know who have bought microtech's new have had problems with them... That is why I won't recommend them..

WANTSOM · Post by **WANTSOM** » Thu May 19, 2011 3:08 pm

What Oldy and Redzone have said. Wise words coming from experience backed up by Thrash detailing it out.

There is a balance between cheap (Microleb), value for money (Haltech/EMS/Autronic) and over the top A grade quality (MOTEC).

Even the latter now recognises the market has shifted and offer a scaled down but top quality ECU in there range. Sure if you were running a top level race car the MOTEC M400/800 with a digital dash is the way to go but overkill for what 90% of the people want and need for street driven cars.

Anyways we digress because someone wanted to correct me on a technicality so back on topic guys.

MrBishi · Post by **MrBishi** » Thu May 19, 2011 4:24 pm

Motec for lyfe!

Damo11 · Post by **Damo11** » Thu May 19, 2011 5:34 pm

Well the ECU info is very handy as I hadn't looked into ECU's much yet and didnt know so much what brands were reputable.
So two birds with one stone is always nice, thanks for your input everyone,
muchly appreciated :D

RiceThief · Post by **RiceThief** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:39 pm

I would like to add, that you should find a tuner that you trust to work on your car and then choose the ecu that they are great at. Unless of course you plan to tune the car yourself.

FST4RD · Post by **FST4RD** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:56 pm

There was a guy on here that converted his Starion to MPI using the factory Loom and ECU. Did something about splitting the injector wires, someone might be able to find the thread...
Apparently ran perfectly fine.

smodgee · Post by **smodgee** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:02 pm

i think it was a purple starion, think there is some stuff on you tube on it

enthuzed · Post by **enthuzed** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:50 pm

1320ft wrote:Well microleb's are so simple, that's why so many people use them. 99% of the street driven rotors in syd have them. Along with most of the fast vl's etc.

These ECUs tend to go hand-in-hand with rotaries.
Cars running these also tend to be thirsty as tuners tend to chuck more fuel at it than necessary, never seem to run optimally nor have quite the power one would expect. You see a cool street car with black on the rear bar and taillight and you think, "Bet that's got a microcrap in it".

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Fri May 20, 2011 4:10 pm

that may not just be the ecu though. on my last visit to mrc, when he was fiddling around with the tune a bit, he showed me that my car makes more power when really rich - more power at 11.5:1 than at 12.5:1..

even running that rich, my economy hasn't been too bad.. i still get about 12.5L/100kms.. but then again, my car rarely ever sees full throttle or full boost.

RiceThief · Post by **RiceThief** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:26 pm

Haltech is having a deal with 100 off there ecus for the month of june. Also tweakit.net sell the haltechs about 100 cheaper than the rrp, so if u buy from them, the 100 off from haltech is on top of that, something to consider if u are in the market for one atm.

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