Sirius dash intercooled import

matstar1000 · Post by **matstar1000** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:37 am

I have some wiriing digrams for these engines, let me know if you want them

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:31 pm

Did you find out what turbo you have exactly ?

sirius dash · Post by **sirius dash** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:13 am

the turbo number is 05 - 12

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:10 am

ah, does it say intercooled on the top of the engine ?

stariontron · Post by **stariontron** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:34 am

i disagree with the 170kw thing. as far as i'm concerned the intercooled dash engine had 150kw, i had a pic from (i think it was the '84) motorshow where the dash engine was unveiled, the caption was 'mitsubishi's new dash engine claimed to produce 150kw' and the engine concerned had an intercooler. plus )and i know this isnt exactly a good indicator) i've been for a ride in a stock i/c dash starion and it went alright, but not 170kw alright
ive never seen a non intercooled dash engine before, who got these?

also, if you say the later ones had less power, how can i tell if my engine (which is a conversion) is the older or newer version?

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:42 am

stariontron wrote:i disagree with the 170kw thing. as far as i'm concerned the intercooled dash engine had 150kw, i had a pic from (i think it was the '84) motorshow where the dash engine was unveiled, the caption was 'mitsubishi's new dash engine claimed to produce 150kw' and the engine concerned had an intercooler. plus )and i know this isnt exactly a good indicator) i've been for a ride in a stock i/c dash starion and it went alright, but not 170kw alright
ive never seen a non intercooled dash engine before, who got these?

also, if you say the later ones had less power, how can i tell if my engine (which is a conversion) is the older or newer version?

The Intercooled DASH version was rated at 170Kw, the difference in power at the wheels between both of them would only be around 10kw not 20Kw, plus you must remember unless both were rebuilt and then you drove each, you have no way of noticing the difference since these are almost 20years old.

The Intercooled DASH Engines had Intercooled written on the top. Just because you put an intercooler on a n/i DASH Engine doesn't mean you'll get an instant 20kw extra as other modifications including the Turbo were made to achieve the extra 20Kw.

Now the later DASH models with 170ps, I don't know how to tell but these were produced from 1988 onwards, I dont know of any real way to tell except to have it rebuilt then dyno test it ?

Anyone else know more about the de-tuned DASH engines ?

stariontron · Post by **stariontron** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:51 am

i disagree, there's a guy on these forums who has a factory dash intercooled engine, and it doesnt say 'intercooled' on the rocker cover. and i bought a spare dash setup complete with intercooler and piping, and again the head doesnt say 'intercooled' on it. one end says 'sirius' and the other end says 'DASH turbo'

WANTSOM · Post by **WANTSOM** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:20 am

The intercooled version had "Cyclone" on the rocker cover. Have seen one - very rare.

stariontron · Post by **stariontron** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:45 pm

none of the standard intercooled dash models ive said have had anything except 'sirius dash turbo' on the rocker cover. afaik there were no cyclone starions, im pretty sure thats a galant thing

WANTSOM · Post by **WANTSOM** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:40 pm

That could be true but are we talking here about Dash motors or Dash Starions.

Either way I will know for sure what the power output is in about 3-4 weeks time. Will let you know the results to settle all arguments (haha).

Cheers
Greg

ProZac · Post by **ProZac** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:59 pm

Pic of a factory intercooled dash starion engine bay. (modded with larger turbo and 3rd injector in x-over pipe). If you cannot see it, its still uploading, my net = slow today.

This car is an 84, jap import, with 5 stud wheels, originally had an LSD aswell. I missed out on it due to being a poor bastard, unfortunatly.

Hows that t88 coming toysrus?

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:03 pm

I've got the Cyclone DASH Engine and dynoed it late last year.

101.6Kw at the wheels with injectors leaking, oil pressure dropping due to leak and fuel pump #%#^& (loosing pressure from 3000rpm onwards) running 9psi.

Technically should have made 119 atw but this is a 20year old engine so it will come up good as new in a couple months time :D

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:07 pm

I'm selling the T88 as soon as it gets here LOL so there you win

I've already ordered a TD06H-20G turbo which should be here in the next two days :D

Just about right for 500Hp ?

I wasn't sure about it saying Intercooled on the top, but then how can one tell the difference ? The VR4s' do have intercooled on the top.....

I'm sure the extra 20kw would have something to do with the turbo aswell which is why I'm asking so if anyone can find out what type TD05-## turbo someone has and if there's came with an i/c or not standard.

Mine's a TD05-12 and isn't running a/the third injector in the x/over pipe.

Also the loom which they used is unfamiliar, it doesn't have an AFM

It has this srew type switch with R & L written on it ? Rich or lean ?

Did the Cyclone type come with the third injector or is this more a Sirius thing ?

Lastly as far as I know, the Starions didn't come with the Cyclone Engines, only the Sigma & Galants did.

stariontron · Post by **stariontron** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:11 pm

thats an interesting place for a 3rd injector, i have some custom piping and the 3rd injector location (which is blanked off at the mo) is much further up by the TB inlet. does it really matter where the injector sits?

dave b · Post by **dave b** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:43 pm

GOT A COUPLE OF 4G64 ENGINES & WAS THINK'N OF DOING THE HAIR DRYER THING.WITH TURBO PISTONS & DASH HEAD WHICH I CAN SCORE WILL HOPEFULLY BE & EAISY & RELIABLE DEAL.

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