zippo wrote:i know this debate has been going on for a while ...............
but there are some very high powerd vehicles out there.
there is a galant based in nsw that runs the 2.6 and has proved over and over to run in the low 10's ...........
this vehicle has been fitted with a power gide and a 5000rpm stall backed by a 9" and slicks but is a very simple set up , standard magna head .
Melbourne has another , again not a starion , but a gemini , this vehicle runs on race fuel and has a t3 fitted and backed by a 7000rpm stall and a borg/warner diff , again a simple set up ........
dont get me wrong , these vehicles are more track vehicles rather than street and have alot of research and trial and error to get them where they are today .
the gemini has had the same engine combo for some time now and is often seen at both calder park and heathcote race way running in the 9's
check out the link to give you more details .
so i know this battle will never end , but its each to their own opinion
http://www.freewebs.com/gemracing/
i dont know if i'd call darren's setup "simple". impressive, yes, but not simple. the amount of development in that car is phenomenal.. 570hp and its only a 1.8 isuzu. similar design engine to a sohc 4G63, i know a lot about them myself as i cut my teeth on gemini's, and am building an extremely serious sohc isuzu 4ZD1 2.3 powered tx coupe for drag racing at the moment.
i stayed with sohc in this car because:
1) i wanted to prove a point
2) i wanted to stay isuzu, and the 4Z's are the best isuzu 4 cyl and imo best sohc 8 valve 4 cyl ever made
3) the isuzu twincams arent that great for forced induction
believe me my gem nearly ended up with a 4G63 dohc in it, but i do like the idea of showing em who's boss with a sohc 8 valve engine, as well as brand loyalty of course. however, common sense prevails, if there was a 16V dohc head available for the 4Z, i'd be all over it like a rash..
but thats enough about isuzu in a mitsu forum....
for my currently 2.6 powered widebody starion however, for me its going 4G63 DOHC all the way, if u want the ultimate setup. its available, might as well use it. its not like its particularly expensive to do compared to a sohc, if ur building a ground up project and can do some work yourself. i'll be using that car as an all rounder, track days, street sprints, drifting, and still be capable of reliably driving to sydney and back if i so desire.
personally i really dont like the 4G54, those chains, argh, those chains. no matter what u do to that engine it'll still be and sound like a sigma motor.
the 63 is just such a sweet little thing, sound so awesome, dohc has an incredible powerband, easy hi po parts availability, proven in high end sport compact drag racing all around the world, no vices in the design like the SR20 etc. imo the 4G63 dohc is the best 2.0 4cyl dohc engine ever made.
horses for courses though.
if u like the idea of your aussie starion still looking like an aussie starion under the bonnet, stick with the '63 sohc.
if u want an huge powerband, easy parts availability go the dohc version.
if u want huge bottom end torque, and an engine that sounds (at idle at the very least) like a rusty old sigma/magna from gympie, go the 4G54.
LOL yeah ok, u can get big power from a '54, just stirring.
