Gabriel shocks for Starion

[hcca]

I haven't done the bushes in the Starion yet, but I did the Sigma ones a while back - you're looking at around $300 for the front (I think that included new ball joints though), same for the rear. Pretty sure Nolathane has listings for Starions (I seem to remember checking it out at some stage) but they shouldn't be dissimilar to other Mitsu's of the same age and i'm sure they can cross-reference them if there's a problem. Noise with urethane bushes is really only a concern on some types of suspension - I had no noise whatsoever in the Sigma (full urethane in all front/rear bushes). No noticible difference in NVH levels, but definitely felt more solid.

[merlin]

TECH FILE: #2
STARION SUSPENSION AND STEERING PARTS
By Merlin.

This article lists the components and suppliers as found so far, and would be far from complete.
A number of these parts have been used on my own car, but please send any info you have to add.

STARION STEERING AND SUSPENSION COMPONENTS

DESCRIPTION
PART NUMBER ~ MANUFACTURER

TIE ROD: LEFT & RIGHT OUTER
RP463L ~ TRW
WTE463 ~ AUSTRAL/WASP
PTE463L ~ PEDDERS
MB412926 ~ MB166982 ~ MITSUBISHI

TIE ROD: LEFT INNER
RP523R ~ TRW
WTE523 ~ AUSTRAL/WASP
PTE523R ~ PEDDERS
MB166980 ~ MITSUBISHI

TIE ROD: RIGHT INNER
RP554R ~ TRW
WTE554 ~ AUSTRAL/WASP
PTE554R ~ PEDDERS
MB166981 ~ MITSUBISHI

TIE ROD ADJUSTER TUBE
MB109857 ~ MITSUBISHI

RELAY ROD
MB266511 ~ MB489447 ~ MITSUBISHI

STRUT LOWER BALL JOINT
172 ~ COLUMBUS & FEDERAL MOGUL
PJB172 ~ PEDDERS
MB185329 ~ MITSUBISHI

IDLER ARM BUSH KIT
P5803 ~ PEDDERS
41046 ~ NOLATHANE
N11594 ~ NOLTEC

RADIUS ROD BUSH KIT
EP1025/26 ~ PEDDERS
48047 ~ NOLATHANE
N81191 ~ NOLTEC

FRONT SWAY BAR D BUSH KIT – STD BAR
42217 ~ NOLATHANE

FRONT & REAR SWAY BAR BUSH KIT
42370 ~ NOLATHANE
EP3360 ~ PEDDERS
N21200 ~ NOLTEC

REAR SWAY BAR D BUSH KIT – STD BAR
42239 ~ NOLATHANE

SWAY BAR LINK BUSH KIT x8
N21135 ~ NOLTEC

SWAY BAR D BUSH KIT
N22164 ~ NOLTEC, for 18mm bar
N22167 ~ NOLTEC, for 19mm bar
N22162 ~ NOLTEC, for 21mm bar
N22165 ~ NOLTEC, for 21mm bar
N22163 ~ NOLTEC, for 25mm bar

FRONT CONTROL ARM BUSH KIT
45278 ~ NOLATHANE
EP6278 ~ PEDDERS
N51593 ~ NOLTEC

ADJUSTABLE STRUT TOP
N44044S ~ NOLTEC
520416J ~ K-MAC

REAR CONTROL ARM - OUTER
N51598 ~ NOLTEC

REAR CONTROL ARM – INNER FRONT
N51595 ~ NOLTEC

REAR CONTROL ARM – INNER REAR
N51596 ~ NOLTEC

REAR CROSSMEMBER MOUNT
N91921 ~ NOLTEC

FRONT SHOCK GAS INSERTS
8735 ~ KYB/PEDDERS

FRONT SPRING – LOWERED 40mm
KCFL-08 ~ KING SPRINGS

REAR SPRING – LOWERED 40mm
KCRL-18 ~ KING SPRINGS

REAR SWAY BAR
BMR40 ~ WHITELINE


Its a little ragged, tried pasting direct from the word doc to thread.
Still lotsa info here.

NOTE 1: When using the WHITELINE BMR40 rear sway bar,
the supplied D bushes wont fit, and nor will any other bush.
There is just enough space to fit some heatshrink over the bar,
which I greased with silicon grease.
This worked out ok.

NOTE 2: One of the best handling mods for a steering box equiped car,
is to fit a idler arm bush kit. Highly recomended.

Dont you just love the edit feature?

[Camotec]

Deeks this is definetly one for the tech section as people can add to the article and be listed by parts etc. :)

[merlin]

i have tried to email dekoy the full file, but it bounced of his hotmail addy, file to big!

[Camotec]

hehe, you can send it to me too if you like, my email will handle it
camotec@swiftdsl.com.au :)

Cheers

[Will]

If you think Konis are too harsh for road use I'd stay well away from the GSR shocks. If you want a comfortable shock you should have a look at the Monro GT Reflex, I put a set of these in my wife's capri turbo. They are comfortable and semi-sporting but don't give anywhere near the control of a Koni or Bilstein.

Just to clarify, were you referring to Koni Sport (Yellow) or Koni Specials (Red)? I was referring to the Koni Sport which is the firmer of the two which I can live with, but a fraction softer is what I prefer. I'll talk to the Peddars guys armed with this info.

Thanks for part numbers Merlin.

[sillbeer]

merlin

That info is just gold. It'll go a long way to getting the Galant handling a little less like 'Uncle Buck's car (similar to an EA Falcon - a boat). Of course front & rear shocks/springs do most, I may as well do the bushes while it's apart. I see you have to drop the entire subframe and shocks out to replace the rears, jeez.

Cheers
Brendan

[merlin]

replacing the bushes on the rear arms was a MAJOR PAIN.
dont try it unless armed with an air saw and a press.
and when using the press, be careful NOT to BEND the arms.
sounds silly i know, but thats what happened to me.

Ben, i tried to email you last night, but the server dropped out, or something. i will try again tonight.

[dirty sanchez]

I replaced everything on Merlin's list and then a few other items (like rear struts, etc). I think the retail cost was about $1500. Some items I didn't get from Pedders but got from Whiteline instead, and the adjustable strut tops are another mob (I think it might be proflex?)

[Camotec]

Ta Merlin :) appreciate it.

[4g6beat]

that's awesome,
much appreciated everyone,

does anyone know the part number for koni adjustables for our cars?
i supect they're around 400-500 a pair do we have to modify the strut tops?

thanks

[Alspos]

Koni 86-2105SP1.
These are red ones.
Same for both front and rear. Strut top needs thread welded in to the top of it so Koni cap can screw in.

[StarionChef]

4 konis alone will cost a grand+

[Camotec]

Just a quicky to let you guys know and anyone else after the complete parts list it can be downloaded from camotec.net under the starion docs section :)

Cheers

[merlin]

something wrong there Ben, cant find the web or the server is busted.