time to decide on ecu! Faves?
time to decide on ecu! Faves?
hey guys i know it wouldve been covered a thousand times but just need a bit of input about ecu's.
prices, thoughts and favourites please :beer
any help would be great, especially the vr4/evo motor guys.
one of the local two dyno tuners swears only by motec but i'm not spending the big $ if theres no need.
thanks guys. :beer
mick
prices, thoughts and favourites please :beer
any help would be great, especially the vr4/evo motor guys.
one of the local two dyno tuners swears only by motec but i'm not spending the big $ if theres no need.
thanks guys. :beer
mick
FS: Ford 302ci Windsor. Race prepped block, Clevite bearings, ARP fixings, Hypertectic pistons, nitrided rods, knife edged crank, Gilmer drive, chrome moly rings, Yella Terra stage 3 heads, manly valves, Comp cams 294* solid roller, YT roller rockers, Funnelweb manifold, 2 inch spacer, Proform 830cfm carb, K&N 10" stack, ICE ignition. - 0437900210
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I like Haltech,
http://www.haltech.com/
I have one. They are cheap lots of features and I am sure there is an engine tuner in Huonville that specializes in tuning Haltech. I found a 4g63 twin cam ignition timing map on the net for the Haltech ecu that I run in my car (with slight alterations).
If you are really in to saving money and like electronics and programming, Megasquirt it a kit form ECU that is really cheap, however some electronics knowledge is necessary.
http://www.megasquirt.info/
I also know person who lives in Huonville with a red starion with the twin cam motor in it and I think he uses a Microtech. I can pm you his number if you like and you can talk to him.
http://www.haltech.com/
I have one. They are cheap lots of features and I am sure there is an engine tuner in Huonville that specializes in tuning Haltech. I found a 4g63 twin cam ignition timing map on the net for the Haltech ecu that I run in my car (with slight alterations).
If you are really in to saving money and like electronics and programming, Megasquirt it a kit form ECU that is really cheap, however some electronics knowledge is necessary.
http://www.megasquirt.info/
I also know person who lives in Huonville with a red starion with the twin cam motor in it and I think he uses a Microtech. I can pm you his number if you like and you can talk to him.
Agatha the ugly Starion
Easy to tune for your tuner or yourself (if you have a wideband sensor)...
EMS 8860 http://www.enginemanagementsystem.com/prod01.htm $1500
eg.... http://www.rigoli.com.au/itt38l.html (10.48sec in full street trim) and it is still able to be tuned to give a good daily streetability... I had a good chat to the owner of this can at WSID late late year...
I'm a bit bias as I installed it in mine :D
EMS 8860 http://www.enginemanagementsystem.com/prod01.htm $1500
eg.... http://www.rigoli.com.au/itt38l.html (10.48sec in full street trim) and it is still able to be tuned to give a good daily streetability... I had a good chat to the owner of this can at WSID late late year...
I'm a bit bias as I installed it in mine :D
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1985 JB Starion #157
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one compound word thats all i have to say
mo-tec
bigmoz :pimp
mo-tec
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85 JB, forged, larger valves, ported and polished microtech, sonata mpi, td06 20g, intercooler, willwood brakes, koni suspention, 3.9LSD and more shit i cant remember
82 JA, blueprint SIRUS 4g63, dumped and a cooler 17's, exhaust... DEAD :(
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82 JA, blueprint SIRUS 4g63, dumped and a cooler 17's, exhaust... DEAD :(
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thanks for the input everyone its great.
i know the other tuning shop does just about anything with decent results but the tuner who prefers motec is fairly methodical and gives half a shit.
sorry i shouldve specified what i was after.
so as follows.
1. totally daily driven
2. perfect trade between response and top end rip
3. 200kw @ wheels
bigger turbo will follow to achieve this (16g), also injectors and evo3 manifold.
is this a realistic goal?
thanks fellas
i will speak to both tuners further and post products they prefer that we can discuss?
cheers,
mick
i know the other tuning shop does just about anything with decent results but the tuner who prefers motec is fairly methodical and gives half a shit.
sorry i shouldve specified what i was after.
so as follows.
1. totally daily driven
2. perfect trade between response and top end rip
3. 200kw @ wheels
bigger turbo will follow to achieve this (16g), also injectors and evo3 manifold.
is this a realistic goal?
thanks fellas
i will speak to both tuners further and post products they prefer that we can discuss?
cheers,
mick
FS: Ford 302ci Windsor. Race prepped block, Clevite bearings, ARP fixings, Hypertectic pistons, nitrided rods, knife edged crank, Gilmer drive, chrome moly rings, Yella Terra stage 3 heads, manly valves, Comp cams 294* solid roller, YT roller rockers, Funnelweb manifold, 2 inch spacer, Proform 830cfm carb, K&N 10" stack, ICE ignition. - 0437900210
Mick,
From my calculations... From 200rwKW = 267rwHP
Assumine 30% drivetrain losses, you will need 380flyHP.
To make 380flyHP on a 2L you will need to rev to 7,500rpm and run 24psi.
Note: 200rwKW in a 1250kg Staz should send you into the Mid to Low 12's!
So... 7,500 rpm... In a SOHC you will need pretty trick cam with a focus on top end power. Bigger valves and some head work would be a big plus. (Or a Stock twin cam should be fine)
And... 24psi... I think you will be looking at a forged bottom end. And some high octane fuel. Maybe 7.5:1 Compression.
Turbo... ?
http://www.gcg.com.au/Catalogue_Menus/T ... ett_BB.htm
200rwKW goal could lead the car to being a bit peaky in power especially if you select the wrong turbo and compression?
Flav and or Redzone might have some suggestions on your engine and turbo requirements. Also the realistic performance and drivability.
From my calculations... From 200rwKW = 267rwHP
Assumine 30% drivetrain losses, you will need 380flyHP.
To make 380flyHP on a 2L you will need to rev to 7,500rpm and run 24psi.
Note: 200rwKW in a 1250kg Staz should send you into the Mid to Low 12's!
So... 7,500 rpm... In a SOHC you will need pretty trick cam with a focus on top end power. Bigger valves and some head work would be a big plus. (Or a Stock twin cam should be fine)
And... 24psi... I think you will be looking at a forged bottom end. And some high octane fuel. Maybe 7.5:1 Compression.
Turbo... ?
http://www.gcg.com.au/Catalogue_Menus/T ... ett_BB.htm
200rwKW goal could lead the car to being a bit peaky in power especially if you select the wrong turbo and compression?
Flav and or Redzone might have some suggestions on your engine and turbo requirements. Also the realistic performance and drivability.
1985 JB Starion #157
Single cam is already capable of 230Kw atw, running high 10's! Forged pistons, pump fuel, L300 manifold, running 20psi and at 6250rpm! Car ran 10.9, but was babied off the line so not to break anything! Car was also setup for track, not drag! Street car version, such as my proposed engine, properly set for drag run should run similar times! :beer
Car can be seen here http://www.beyondthelimit.com.au/ go to "Projects", then "Con's Circuit Car"! Pics and dyno sheet!
Car can be seen here http://www.beyondthelimit.com.au/ go to "Projects", then "Con's Circuit Car"! Pics and dyno sheet!
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what turbo size chunks? And cam/injectors?
thats a great time for that car to run!
forgive me if im wrong but why is it that this car is running tens while ppl with similar mods are running 13's :?
thats a great time for that car to run!
forgive me if im wrong but why is it that this car is running tens while ppl with similar mods are running 13's :?
82 GSR III starion (respray nearly complete!)
83 JA Starion...Daily Driver
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