DASH Thermostat

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Its pointing the wrong way, and its on the wrong end of the head :(

So just a quick question.

Can I just flip it 180 degrees, and use a longer radiator pipe? any problems with doing that?
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Yep and nope.

Try the afermarket shops - I'm sure you will come up with something that works. I "think" a standard Starion one will also get you out of trouble.
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Yeah, I was just hoping to get this little problem out of the way early. When I get it put on, I want it to be as stress free and low cost as possible. I've got about 20 bucks.

So anyway, I spun it 180 degrees, and here is a picture of what I am thinking pipe wise. I can't see any problem with it, but if I'm missing something please let me know.

I was going to try the 8 valve thermo as well, but I lost it :(

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I was thinking of using the normal style rubber radiator pipes and a piece of steel tube, but then I realised normal steel tube doesn't have the lips at each end by default, so any recommendations for doing it properly? and any recommendations for doing it cheaply? Some creative ideas would be welcomed, I like excuses to go to Pick a Part and cut stuff up.
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Post by Bangbus »

Use normal steel tube and get someone to run a bead of weld around the end to hole the hose on
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Logic wins again.

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I snuck the pipe up between the head and the injection manifold.
If you have a water cooled turbo, don't forget a take off tube for it too.
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Abalistic wrote:I snuck the pipe up between the head and the injection manifold.
If you have a water cooled turbo, don't forget a take off tube for it too.
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Yeah I see there is a screw-in fitment that I guessed was for the turbo. I guess some braided lines going around the back of the head for that. Also I'm having trouble deciding what car I should put it in, which makes decisions that much harder as they're very different in setup :? Oh well, get the engine assembled, then deal with that problem.

Thanks for the heads up though :)

Oh and there is a blue wire with a black plug that comes out from the bottom of the DASH intake manifold - any idea what this does? It's not on my standard manifold. Intake Air Temp maybe??
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Bangbus wrote:Use normal steel tube and get someone to run a bead of weld around the end to hole the hose on
A better option might be getting an exhaust shop to use a narrow flaring tool to put a small bead in it (about 10mm from the end). Local exhaust shop did all my intercooler pipes like that for me and charged me $10 for the service :)
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Does it come out of a square plate with a round centre bit and four bit holes around the outside? If so that is a warming plate thing to assist cold starts. It heats up nice and quick and helps to atomise the fuel that is falling on it when the engine is cold.
I left mine disconnected, blocked off the throttle coolant lines and removed the idle stepper motor which was broken. No cold start for me :?
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oooo that sounds great

I was thinking of blocking off the water as well, however if it has that benefit, I might do some investigation. Would be good to have all that running when cold, but shut-off when warm. Gives me some food for thought anyway.

So does the warming plate just take a 12V feed?
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It uses the big relay mounted on the firewall which is connected directly to the battery. The relay is triggered by the ECU.
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Yeah I dont have any of that. Just heads and manifolds.

Would either need to be custom controlled, or maybe later on aftermarket ECU style. Unless I decide to put it in the EX, which may have things like that, I did notice it was smooth when cold, where the GSR-X farts about.
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I wouldn't bother with it if I were you, I think it is more for places where they get sub zero temperatures that would make the fuel have problems atomizing.
You can have the relay from my DASH setup if you wanna set it up. I've got no use for it.
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Ahh ok. In that case I wont bother.

Also the water running through the intake would be of a higher temperature than the air going in (when using an intercooler), so I think I'll follow your footsteps and just leave the warmer unplugged, and the intake water-less, but I will definately keep my stepper motor :)

Also where should I be looking for the DASH Solenoid itself on the head? I hope its there :?
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See how the rocker cover is higher over the part where it says SIRIUS than a normal 8valve rocker cover? Under there is the solenoid and the other interesting oil bits. I don't think it could be missing or you would have low oil pressure.
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