help needed with timing

Cookiemonster · Post by **Cookiemonster** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:47 pm

Alspos wrote:Beacha!!! LOL

Ya young scalli-wag!..

oh hang on, your old like me.

Post by **Alspos** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:50 pm

Cookiemonster wrote:
Alspos wrote:Beacha!!! LOL
Ya young scalli-wag!..

oh hang on, you'RE (edit the bad Cookie spelling) old like me.

I am not...... I'm 19, honest...... I don't remember Gigantor or the Banana Splits or Sigmund the Sea monster..... oops...

Barney · Post by **Barney** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:38 pm

just because its on 0 on the crank, dosen't mean its TDC on number one. it could be on number 4 firing.

you have to be on compressions stroke on number one, as i explaind earlier. with your finger in the spark plug hole of number one.

like alpos said the rotor will turn as you insert the distributor, so make sure its where you want it to be when its actually all the way in.

ASHLY

strion · Post by **strion** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:19 am

i did it exactly the way you guys told me to and the fucking peice of shit would still not mutherfucking start@!!!!!
i wanna kill myself for buying a starion!!!!! :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare:

decoy · Post by **decoy** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:42 am

strion wrote:i wanna kill myself for buying a starion!!!!! :glare:

been there, done that. austarionis full of ghosts u c

maybe find a mechanic to help start it? there'll either be a simple fix, or an overly expensive one, then you'll fall in love again :P

Cookiemonster · Post by **Cookiemonster** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:36 am

strion wrote:i did it exactly the way you guys told me to and the fucking peice of shit would still not mutherfucking start@!!!!!
i wanna kill myself for buying a starion!!!!! :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare: :glare:

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh when I read this. Probably because we have all been there and done that.

Is the dizzy the only thing you have touched since it ran last?

Post by **Alspos** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:12 am

Ok, just take a deep breath...... hold it.........let it out.........Aaaahhh

Now, you have spark? Pull a spark plug lead off and turn it over. Get a shock? If so, good, if not you have a problem.

Make sure the mark on the cam is at 9 when the crank is at 12.

If you can't determine if the engine is at TDC try it, if it doesn't fire, pull the dizzy, rotate the crank 1 turn and put the dizzy back in. If you didn't have TDC this will now be it. But make sure the cam is at 9.

Does this help any? Don't give up yet, It's possibly just a little thing out of whack, once it's fixed, your love will be rekindled.....

NXTIME · Post by **NXTIME** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:30 pm

What ECU are you using? Check to see if the dizzy is sparking as has been mentioned.

strion · Post by **strion** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:50 pm

i know theres spark bcoz i got electricuted so bad i was about to die...it got me about 5 different times....very strong current...cams a 9o'clock, dizzy 8 o'clock, crank at around 1 o'clock....TDC...and it turns over fine but it just is having a hard time starting...
ive got and ems charlie....ill givem a call...see if the done anything to the dizzy i should know about....or the ecu

Project2501 · Post by **Project2501** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:09 pm

I'll share my experiences since it sounds relevant. If you are using multi coil, ensure that your distributor has the proper cylinder 1 reference signal..

have you tried the timing reset on the EMS? I'm aware that MT ecu's require the timing to be reset to 0 in the actual computer when installing.

I had trouble starting, with all the associated backfires and farting because the dizzy was telling the computer to fire cylinder 1 when it should be firing cylinder x..

cheers

tom.

CussCuss · Post by **CussCuss** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:48 pm

sounds exatly like its 180 deg off, did this in a hq once, flames out the dam carby

strion · Post by **strion** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:42 am

i called up ems and what he told me to do was put it on btdc and put the dizzy in facing the 1 and it should start up no [problems...he didnt say any thing else about it...maybve his not telling me sumthing...plus by the time i get anywhere the battery looses charge...what type of battery are you guys using?nice and strong one?

WANTSOM · Post by **WANTSOM** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:05 am

Strion.

Man you gotta find a better way to check your spark. Try a multimeter or something. BTW- were you the black guy with smoking frizzled hair I saw up Stanhope the other day rofl

re batteries... we use new, fully charged ones just to be sure :D

Keep working on it or just take the car to a mechanic if you've hit a wall. Sometimes you gotta spend a little dosh to get moving. Dont be embarassed, thats why we have a currency system.

Cheers
Greg

strion · Post by **strion** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:37 pm

thanx guys i got it started...finally....
i think nows when the real problems are gonna start again.

ps. im not the black guy with smoked frizzled hair, im a brown guy wif streaked hair ;)

Cookiemonster · Post by **Cookiemonster** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:44 pm

So what was the problem?

Austarion

help needed with timing

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