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Quick question, I've got a 1.4:1 malpassi regulator which I'm going to use on a sonata setup. Should I remove the factory fuel pressure regulator from the end of the sonata fuel rail and just use the malpassi, or should I run them in series(easier) to control fuel pressure???
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Remove the original unit, the malpassi is a replacement unit.... :beer
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BLOFLY wrote:Quick question, I've got a 1.4:1 malpassi regulator which I'm going to use on a sonata setup. Should I remove the factory fuel pressure regulator from the end of the sonata fuel rail and just use the malpassi, or should I run them in series(easier) to control fuel pressure???
Why are you running the Malpassi regulator are your injectors too small?
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What is the purpose of a malpassi type rising rate fuel regulator over a standard one?
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Post by WIDEST_1 »

not much!! Std pressure reg's are the go.most efi cars need between 280~ 350Kpa fuel pressure. all std pressure regs are rising rate to compensate 4 pressure diffurences via the vac fitting to inlet manafold. They raise pressure 2 compensate for extra manafold presure. malpassi what evers are for people using injectors,pumps,regs ect that are not suited for each other.Each injector is designed to work with a specific fuel pressure range. I can't answer the ? because i don't know what tey are needed 4.
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fr335tyl3r wrote:What is the purpose of a malpassi type rising rate fuel regulator over a standard one?
1. Higher fuel pressure allows the injectors to flow more without replacing them. Of course a fuel toy like an Apexi S-AFC would be needed, or an aftermarket computer.

2. if you upgrade your fuel pump too far beyond factory spec, you also want a stronger fuel pressure regulator.

Rising rate - all FPRs on turbo cars are rising rate. 1psi extra fuel pressure, for every 1psi of boost is normally the go, known as 1:1 rising rate. However another common one is the 1.7:1, which adds more fuel pressure per pound of boost, which is beneficial if your injectors really suck, but most car tuners prefer 1:1 (as its easier for them to work with) and for you just to buy decent injectors (assuming you are running an aftermarket ECU).

Well thats what I gathered. I tend to research weird topics sometimes, and I did a bit of reading on this one, and thats what I learned.
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I was going to use the sonata injectors to get it up and running but I decided to buy some VR4 injectors instead.
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I would've thought the sonata injectors would be a bit to small anyway, mayaswell get something decent if your spending up on mpi.
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Nothing wrong with using the standard Sonata FPR. It'll work fine.

Don't use the Sonata injectors though. Way too small.
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Cookiemonster wrote:Nothing wrong with using the standard Sonata FPR. It'll work fine.
Have you tested the fuel pressure on boost using this FPR or when you were using the L300 FPR?
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I have the standard Sonata FPR. Running 550cc RX7 injectors
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TOMSUN wrote:I have the standard Sonata FPR. Running 550cc RX7 injectors
But your starion doesn't run, so that doesnt mean much.

I am using a standard L300 FPR, but i suspect it is not rising the fuel pressure above 15psi boost...
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Post by TOMSUN »

Good point... But I don't think I'll be needing to go to a rising rate FPR with the bigger injectors.
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