Been debating on weither or not to sell the Starion so I threw it up on a few australian car dealer site, with in a few weeks ive got about eight emails saying same thing, "I went on the car site(whatever site it was) and I was interested in purchasing your car" I think about seven out of the eight continued to say, "Please send me your name, phone number and address so that we can send a check out immediatly." This is before they knew anything about the car didnt even see pics, or even knew if the car ran. Also they all had the same pitch, am located in UK (one from US) and had their customers interested in the car so they were going to import it for them.....fair enough but why would you import a car that you can buy locally? so anyways basically disregard the seven and email back the one guy who acctually asked something about the car, so I emailed him back and told him everything about it and sent him pics he emails this:
"Hello friend,
Goodday to you over there,i really appreciate your response.I like the car and am ok with the price($3,500) but i will instruct my associate to issue out cheque of (american dollas $12,000) for the charges and all rest things that you need to do and for the shipping,i have a reputable shipper that i always use they be in charge of all the shipping and the all the document that will be neccessary for the car.All you will do is when you get the cheque and cash it in your bank,you will deduct your money($3,500) and all the charges and send the remaining balance to my shipper that will come for the pickup and shipping of the car and also they will need the money to get the neccessary document they need for the car.After you deduct your money you will mail me back and let me know the balance.But i instruct my associate to issue out the cheque i will need your information and! the information that is:
(1) THE NAME AND ADDRESS THAT WILL BE ON THE CHEQUE
(2) THE COUNTRY,STATE,ZIPCODE AND YOUR PRESENT TELEPHONE NUMBER EITHER MOBILE OR LAND PHONE FOR FAST COMMUNICATION..
Thanks and have a blissful christmas and new year in advance.
I awiat your response..
Best Regards..."
basically the same email as I was getting from everyone else. So I figure maybe its real, email him back and ask him for his details, the details of the shiping company he goes through, why some one would import a car they could but locally, and a few other questions including the most important question, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU TRUST ME TO SEND YOU BACK THE $8,500 US? and as the legitamate buisness man he is sends this back
"Hello,
If you know you want to do business let do business and never compare me with someone and aslo stop asking question about my personal life.Busines is business.
Regards.... "
So just wondering what kinda scam people recon this is, ANYONE what the crap is this? The only thing I can think of is people want my address so they can come and steal it. Has this happened to any one, any one any ideas?????????????? either way good for a laugh
(sorry so long)
Extremly suspect situation (LONG SORRY)
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Just to add to the sus factor have a look at these peoples "names"
Jason Loon
John Jimmy
Claire Billy
Clem Jones
Tinto Latino
Jack Hansen (feasable) but this character gave me his buisness name "Hansen Motors @ #32 Tooting Bec Gdns London SW16 1RBLondon" Run the name through net white pages yellow pages buisness is not known
Here is another email I got from one of the guys
"How are you doing,
I got your mail and the car is absolutely okay by me, the price is also okay.Now i will like to know your payment terms as i really need the car urgently,i'm presenting it to a brother who is getting married soonest, kindly mail me back immediatelly with your payment details and the type of payment you will prefer.
I hope to read from you.
Clem. "
All of these people seem ileteriate too.
Jason Loon
John Jimmy
Claire Billy
Clem Jones
Tinto Latino
Jack Hansen (feasable) but this character gave me his buisness name "Hansen Motors @ #32 Tooting Bec Gdns London SW16 1RBLondon" Run the name through net white pages yellow pages buisness is not known
Here is another email I got from one of the guys
"How are you doing,
I got your mail and the car is absolutely okay by me, the price is also okay.Now i will like to know your payment terms as i really need the car urgently,i'm presenting it to a brother who is getting married soonest, kindly mail me back immediatelly with your payment details and the type of payment you will prefer.
I hope to read from you.
Clem. "
All of these people seem ileteriate too.
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Now that is what I call bloody hilarious!Cookiemonster wrote:This site should answer your questions.
http://www.fluke-motorsport.co.uk/temp/scammers.html
Starion nutter since 1988...
1983 JA, 1984 JA, 1985 JB (all rego'd, all running :D )
1983 JA, 1984 JA, 1985 JB (all rego'd, all running :D )
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yep
yep I'd love to follow it.
- B l a d d e r - i s - N o t h i n g - W i t h o u t - C o n t r o l -
scam
Wow, that's amazing!
I love it completely.
I love it completely.
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ok, here is the story thus far....
my girlfriend posted the starion on some online classfieds, and like 8 scammers sent me emails saying they were interested. So because I didnt want the scammer to any of my real info I made a fake email address.....my name is Karl Lagerfeld, I found the name in a magazine I had laying around....so I emailed the guy back from my new address and said.....
> Clem,
>
> My girlfriend has informed me of your intrest in
> purchasing my car that I have for sale, and I was
> wondering if you were still at all interested? I
> think she sent you a message telling you to message me
> but she got my email address wrong, anyways this is
> the correct address and I would be very happy if you
> emailed me back as soon as possible if you are still
> interested.
>
> Thanks
> Karl
he replied...
Hello,
Sorry i have sent a mail to the e mail address she first gave me and
did not know it was wrong. I want to know if i may see the picture of
the car and the best offer,However the condition of the car i will also
like to know kindly mail me back immediatelly.
Clem.
Didnt seem like his english was that great so I decided I would see how bad it acctually was.........
Clem,
The car is a 1984 Mitshubishi Startion, 2 litre turbo EFI motor, power steering, power windows, air cond, leather interior, 5 speed manual. The body is in great shape as you can see in the pics. The paint is is great condition, the interior is also excellent. Mechanically the car is very good, took it to a mechanic a few weeks ago and the only thing he could fault was the flux capacitor wasnt working at full capacity. He said that it wouldnt really effect the car in anyway, unless you wanted to time travel whereas he said that it wouldnt still be much of a problem as all you would have to do is get it up to 100mph instead of the standard 88mph. While it was at the mechanics I also had them do a fuel economy test, they found that after juicing a whole bag of trash I could drive 300Km on the trash juices! Tell me that is great economy? But that is about all the info about the car I know but I can tell you one thing it is the best tim e travel vehicle I've ever been in, so if your still interested please get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks
Karl
and I attatched this photo:
nice looking starion eh????? so he says..........
Thanks for the mail,
I got all the explanation and i'm very pleased. but is there any picture for the car?
If there is any let me see it . and if there is none like you have said in your message i hope i can not have problem with the car. Then let us discuss payment.What is your prefered payment terms.
let me know.
Clem.
I dont know what the clown was talking about because I had allready sent a photo....but I sent it again
> Clem,
>
> Thank you very much for your prompt email, you must be
> very interested in the car. You are no sucker you
> know a good time travel vehicle when you see one.
> Speaking of seeing one I swear I attatched a photo, I
> will send you a new photo! I am willing to depart
> with the car for $3500 AUD. As far as payment is
> concerned I have no ideas, perhaps if you clairify
> which country you live in I could figure something
> out. So get back to me on where you live and we can
> figure something out.
>
> Thanks
> Karl Lagerfeld
then his........
Hello,
Thanks for the mail. I will be expecting the photo as soon as
possible ok. Now concerning the payment i will like to pay you by a cheque i
hope you will be okay with that, i'm from philadelphia
pennsylvannia.Get back with the payment details.
Clem.
So what I figure is he is gonna send his fake check, so hmmm Im gonna try and get a free magazine out of it.........
> Clem,
>
> I've called around a few friends. One of my friends
> tells me that if we send the check discreatly in the
> mail and that way neither US government or Australian
> government have to know about the purchase and neither
> of us have to pay taxes for the car! Imagine that not
> having to pay taxes for a awsome time machine! So
> what I am thinking is you should go buy a Japanese Car
> Import magazine, put the check in the center fold pic
> and tape it in their really good so it doesnt come
> out. Then you can send me the magazine with the check
> in it, so if customs happens to open it all they will
> think it is, is a magazine. Sound like a plan to you?
> Get back to me asap, so we can do this thing! TELL
> ME ARE YOU GONNA LOVE THIS TIME MACHINE OR WHAT??????
>
> Thanks,
> Karl Lagerfeld
>
> PS - Good buddy I send the photo again for ya!
the pricks reply:
That's makes perfect sense,
I'm going to do that as soon as i have your payment details ok.
Such as your name in full and your full address where you want the
check to be mailed to. Your phone number will also be nedeed.
Thanks,
Clem.
.....and this is where I am at right now, debating what to do now.....i need to figure out like a fake address I can collect the stuff at or a Post Office Box or something.............any ideas what to do next???
my girlfriend posted the starion on some online classfieds, and like 8 scammers sent me emails saying they were interested. So because I didnt want the scammer to any of my real info I made a fake email address.....my name is Karl Lagerfeld, I found the name in a magazine I had laying around....so I emailed the guy back from my new address and said.....
> Clem,
>
> My girlfriend has informed me of your intrest in
> purchasing my car that I have for sale, and I was
> wondering if you were still at all interested? I
> think she sent you a message telling you to message me
> but she got my email address wrong, anyways this is
> the correct address and I would be very happy if you
> emailed me back as soon as possible if you are still
> interested.
>
> Thanks
> Karl
he replied...
Hello,
Sorry i have sent a mail to the e mail address she first gave me and
did not know it was wrong. I want to know if i may see the picture of
the car and the best offer,However the condition of the car i will also
like to know kindly mail me back immediatelly.
Clem.
Didnt seem like his english was that great so I decided I would see how bad it acctually was.........
Clem,
The car is a 1984 Mitshubishi Startion, 2 litre turbo EFI motor, power steering, power windows, air cond, leather interior, 5 speed manual. The body is in great shape as you can see in the pics. The paint is is great condition, the interior is also excellent. Mechanically the car is very good, took it to a mechanic a few weeks ago and the only thing he could fault was the flux capacitor wasnt working at full capacity. He said that it wouldnt really effect the car in anyway, unless you wanted to time travel whereas he said that it wouldnt still be much of a problem as all you would have to do is get it up to 100mph instead of the standard 88mph. While it was at the mechanics I also had them do a fuel economy test, they found that after juicing a whole bag of trash I could drive 300Km on the trash juices! Tell me that is great economy? But that is about all the info about the car I know but I can tell you one thing it is the best tim e travel vehicle I've ever been in, so if your still interested please get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks
Karl
and I attatched this photo:
nice looking starion eh????? so he says..........
Thanks for the mail,
I got all the explanation and i'm very pleased. but is there any picture for the car?
If there is any let me see it . and if there is none like you have said in your message i hope i can not have problem with the car. Then let us discuss payment.What is your prefered payment terms.
let me know.
Clem.
I dont know what the clown was talking about because I had allready sent a photo....but I sent it again
> Clem,
>
> Thank you very much for your prompt email, you must be
> very interested in the car. You are no sucker you
> know a good time travel vehicle when you see one.
> Speaking of seeing one I swear I attatched a photo, I
> will send you a new photo! I am willing to depart
> with the car for $3500 AUD. As far as payment is
> concerned I have no ideas, perhaps if you clairify
> which country you live in I could figure something
> out. So get back to me on where you live and we can
> figure something out.
>
> Thanks
> Karl Lagerfeld
then his........
Hello,
Thanks for the mail. I will be expecting the photo as soon as
possible ok. Now concerning the payment i will like to pay you by a cheque i
hope you will be okay with that, i'm from philadelphia
pennsylvannia.Get back with the payment details.
Clem.
So what I figure is he is gonna send his fake check, so hmmm Im gonna try and get a free magazine out of it.........
> Clem,
>
> I've called around a few friends. One of my friends
> tells me that if we send the check discreatly in the
> mail and that way neither US government or Australian
> government have to know about the purchase and neither
> of us have to pay taxes for the car! Imagine that not
> having to pay taxes for a awsome time machine! So
> what I am thinking is you should go buy a Japanese Car
> Import magazine, put the check in the center fold pic
> and tape it in their really good so it doesnt come
> out. Then you can send me the magazine with the check
> in it, so if customs happens to open it all they will
> think it is, is a magazine. Sound like a plan to you?
> Get back to me asap, so we can do this thing! TELL
> ME ARE YOU GONNA LOVE THIS TIME MACHINE OR WHAT??????
>
> Thanks,
> Karl Lagerfeld
>
> PS - Good buddy I send the photo again for ya!
the pricks reply:
That's makes perfect sense,
I'm going to do that as soon as i have your payment details ok.
Such as your name in full and your full address where you want the
check to be mailed to. Your phone number will also be nedeed.
Thanks,
Clem.
.....and this is where I am at right now, debating what to do now.....i need to figure out like a fake address I can collect the stuff at or a Post Office Box or something.............any ideas what to do next???
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