PCV valve needed? (twin cam)

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PCV valve needed? (twin cam)

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hi, Is the PCV valve necessary?

will hose work or need that special thingy inside
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Yes....you will need a PCV valve. Easy to plumb in, will help stop your engine from pressurising and expelling it's oil.
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You may need one fitted to get a cert mate. If its an engine transplant you deff need one. I dont have one on my gold car as its just the head thats different and there for not classed as a engine transplant.
But if you are using a EVO or VR4 block you will need a PVC. Also depends on what you tell your cert guy :)
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Why tell them? Besides, the engine number regardless on block will be 4G63****** anyway. It won't alarm anyone unless they really know these cars....
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even if they did, what are they gonna do, measure the distance between the bellhousing bolts??
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Good points guys.
Im sure the guy that cert'ed mine didnt even pull the wheels off it. I had to remind him about the wheel spacers lol
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The twincam evo/vr4 head needs one as it pressurises the oil to over 100psi at idle. Without the valve you will expel a litre or more of oil everytime you drive.

It's your call.

If you don't have it and block it off, crankcase pressure will build up putting unnessecary stress on your head studs and may lead to premature failure of the seal of your HG. Or any other oil seal including the rocker cover seal or cam seals.

And if you think that rocker cover is strong, you have another thing coming.
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Post by rodney007 »

I just connected the pcv pipe down to the port on the intake manifold. then I run the cam cover breather to the catch tank.
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[quote="Entaran"]The twincam evo/vr4 head needs one as it pressurises the oil to over 100psi at idle. Without the valve you will expel a litre or more of oil everytime you drive

wtf 100 psi at idle speed :o :? :shock:
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Post by Entaran »

My recently rebuilt race motor pushes 135psi at cold start, settling to 80psi after 2 minutes, then down to about 24psi at warm idle.

This is why you have breather valves. That's a SHITLOAD of oil pressure.

Have you never acutally hooked up an accurate gauge to a vr4 oilpump? ;)
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135psi is normal depending on what oil you use...
24psi on a warmed up motor is good, no problem at idle but it should be more like 100psi @7k rpm...


The PCV is for evacuating crankcase-gases, and burn them, at idle/low rpm/mani-vacuum... when manifold pressure gets higher than the valvespring can hold, it closes and the gases goes the other way to the catchcan and filter/turbo primary side.

You don't need the PCV, tecnicaly. But probably for regulations and invarometal shit...

You NEED some type of breather for the crank-case/camcover.
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Entaran wrote:My recently rebuilt race motor pushes 135psi at cold start, settling to 80psi after 2 minutes, then down to about 24psi at warm idle.

This is why you have breather valves. That's a SHITLOAD of oil pressure.

Have you never acutally hooked up an accurate gauge to a vr4 oilpump? ;)
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Should also mention those figures are with the balance shafts too.
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