Help needed - JD not happy - will not idle

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Can I clean the pick up without taking out the tank??

I have 50 litres of PULP that I would have to drain, so I have been procrastinating......... also been too busy to look at it.

I have the manual so I should read that I suppose :D

If you know if it is easy to pull out the pick up and clean let me know

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Yes you can .There is a removable panel on the left side of the spare tyre well :)
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any luck mate?
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Ray, why haven't you talked to me about it yet?
I'm sure we can work something out...
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Mainly time - and its too hot!!!!!
cooler this week but still mid 30s
I am away next weekend.......
Can you buy a replacement filter or do you just clean the one in the tank?
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I did adsk if you had a spare pump Jason.... but no hear nuffin :(
Car is still in my garage looking a bit forlorn.
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Fuel related? I think not.

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From the syptoms you describe, i doubt it's fuel related. "refuses to idle but will idle roughly when giving it some herbs..."
Sounds like Vacuum or electrical to me. Certainly a strange one - hope you get it sorted out. Could be ECU failure, too! But definitely check the hoses on the firewall, i vaguely recollect helping someone with a similar prob on their JD once , a long long time ago, and it turned out to be vac related. Good luck!
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I have checked the in tank filter and it was clean as a whistle........ fuel pump makes the right noises but I am suspicious it is that.
I have checked the vac hoses and as fas as I can see and Mr Bender can see they all look OK
Maybe the ECU?? anyone got a spare JD one lying around? I think I discounted this with some discussions with Glenn.

It would be nice to find it.

Thanks for all input. :)
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OK....... an update

Grabbed a spare fuel pump from Redzone when I was over at Mooloolaba and changed it out today - what a bastard of a job!!!! and as is often the case the JD has different plugs on the wiring so had to modify that.
So three hours later and I start it up...........

Still the same !!!!!!! will not idle
This car has the ability to run beautifully - but not right now!!

Current conclusion is - I think I poisoned the car - I think it was left too long and the fuel is stuffed. The 50 litres of PULP has been contaminated by the crap that was in the tank and I think I have to try the next option and drain the tank.

Before I do I am going to grab a jerry can and run a hose direct to the pump intake and try 5 litres of fresh PULP from a remote tank.
Has anyone done this before?
I pulled off the fuel supply at the intake manifold amd turned the car over and shitloads of fuel was pumping - so no prob with the fuel pump - should have done that with the existing one first :D
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Post by OLD FART »

Noddy I have my original JB ecu that was checked and tested and ran my Staz when it was running 15psi & making 200+ hp atw Happy to post it to you provided it comes back if it doesn't solve your problems. Will check with Redzone as to what they are worth.
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Post by JDSTAZ45 »

If I recall correctly, you had an odd setup with the injectors with a black and a grey top in there...
I remember playing around with my injectors on the JD/JB cars I had. I could not get them to run with interchanged injectors....
I reckon something has been done to get the odd setup firing. Also, check the connections thoroughly!

It really may be a case for the auto electrician or fuel injection specialist to diagnose what's going on? Not worth the headaches going alone!

At least the fuel is getting in there!!
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Thanks OF - will see how it goes

The injectors are now new ones from US and have run really well in the car.
I did try the old injectors back in to see if they may be the cause but it ran the same with either set pretty much - ie not really at all

I am convincing myself its the dodgy fuel which was suggested early in the peace.
I have this simple test - will try that and report
Thanks for monitoring and all your feedback

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Check the AFR with a wideband oxy....
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Hi

I have tried 3 different AFRs........... I believe all are good
Thanks
Did not manage to try clean fuel as have been in bed sick today :(
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Noddy wrote: I believe all are good...
What readings did you get? :roll:
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