Bellhousing for w55/59 boxes

enthuzed · Post by **enthuzed** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:05 pm

http://www.billsautofab.com/recent_mit.asp

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OLD FART · Post by **OLD FART** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:14 am

Bill Hincher is to be congratulated for the effort he has put into making bellhousings for our 63's .
I think that his bells are/were better priced than Dellows as well

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:44 am

if the spare parts are cheap enough - the Chinese Great Wall vehicles with the 2.4L engine would provide a bellhousing to go from 4G63 (wideblock most likely) to W55-9 boxes.

1320ft · Post by **1320ft** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:47 am

The bill hincher stuff is probably a hell of a lot better quality than the dellow stuff of late too.

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Wed May 25, 2011 9:26 am

Great wall uses a wideblock,i measured one a while back..

Ps I have an rn85 hilux box here for sale, W57 or something...

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:58 pm

hmm, will a t56 fit into the staz tranny tunnel??

enthuzed · Post by **enthuzed** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:12 pm

I've heard of the t56. What are they out of?

RiceThief · Post by **RiceThief** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:44 pm

The t56 are a 6 speed found in ls1 onwards holdens as well as ba xr8s and bf xr6t.

Bear in mind there are 3 versions of the t56 and housing from bill doesnt fit the t56 we have. Also while the t56 can handle alot of torque and abuse, i dont think it would such a great box in a starion, its heavy and abit clunky i found.

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:54 pm

yeah it's humongous.. but widely used in a lot of performance cars.. sits behind a number of american (and a few euro) v8s, v10s and v12s...

Lummy · Post by **Lummy** » Wed May 25, 2011 6:23 pm

Nothing against Dellows in general, but to be honest, it wouldn't be hard to create a better quality product than what they do for the W5* series behind a Starion. I have one and although it's functional, the finish and general quality is poor.

MrBishi · Post by **MrBishi** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:41 am

thrash wrote:hmm, will a t56 fit into the staz tranny tunnel??

Not even close. Considerable surgery is required to fit - to the point I gave up and will use something else.
I have a Bill Hincher wideblock to R154 bellhousing. Really well made stuff with everything needed included. Far above the dellow bellhousing I had in the past.

For sale: Adapter plate to fit LS1 T56 to wide or narrow block 4G borgwarner bellhousing.

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Thu May 26, 2011 9:48 am

ahh so it's already been tried here lol.

yeah i didn't think so. those thigns are huuuuge!! And I agree with RT, I don't think the extra weight would be worth the strength of it..

the bellhousing for the w58 and r154 should be the same, no?

MrBishi · Post by **MrBishi** » Thu May 26, 2011 10:20 am

thrash wrote:the bellhousing for the w58 and r154 should be the same, no?

No. Different. Common mistake or assumption.
The thing I am baulking at now is paying the same for a R154 as I did for the T56. At least it 'should' fit in the starion tunnel with minimal mods.

WANTSOM · Post by **WANTSOM** » Thu May 26, 2011 1:54 pm

Plus having the T56 in the Monaro I can report first hand they are a terrible gearbox - the change is sloppy and the ratios not all that good. First is way too low to the point of being almost useless and the gap between 5th (1:1) and 6th is huge.

The only way they become half decent is with the fitment of a Ripshifter - and they're not exactly cheap.

ACE · Post by **ACE** » Fri May 27, 2011 5:56 pm

I think if you do your research properly. All the T56 boxes, up until the current models (which have to newer design T56 installed), are double overdrive gearboxes. 4th is 1:1 and 5th and 6th are overdrives.

Crewmans have an extremely tall 1st gear, compaired to other models, and will do the highway speed limit in 1st gear.

And yes...... You need to change the shifter to them a reasonable gearbox to drive.

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