EU spec Starion, basic model

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:28 pm

Krorz.. what size are your front brake rotors?

Cel Stowers · Post by **Cel Stowers** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:14 pm

Looked up the link to Wikipedia on the Starion specs. I have a GSR-0, anyone heard of this? I bought this Jap import without an engine (but it did have a turbo engine) and at that stage had non-power steering. It also had struts and steering similar to early Galant & Celeste models. Be interested to know if anyone's had or seen one of these. I still have the struts/calipers/discs etc and will put them on my GTO (as these didn't come with vented discs) but can't find replacement rotors. Nothing I've referenced seems to match but think they may have been the same as Lancer 1800GSR.

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:20 pm

no such thing as a GSR-0, yours will most likely be a GSR-I which is the lowest spec turbo model. The Starion struts are going to be very similar to a Galant given the Starion is based upon the 4th gen Galant platform.

Cel Stowers · Post by **Cel Stowers** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:01 pm

Well I'm no expert on this matter, but I beg to differ. Picture says it all I'd say.http://www.fr33z3.net/starions/Apr06/gsr0_copy4.jpg

Krorz · Post by **Krorz** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:54 pm

thrash wrote:Krorz.. what size are your front brake rotors?

Hmm, I don't really know but I think it's the smaller version.
The car is pretty dirty in that pic, but you can see the front brake rotor:

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:38 am

Cel Stowers wrote:Well I'm no expert on this matter, but I beg to differ. Picture says it all I'd say.http://www.fr33z3.net/starions/Apr06/gsr0_copy4.jpg

You're right.. you are no expert on this matter!

Anyone can make up a sticker. It doesn't even make sense having the numeral zero, as the rest of the range is in roman numerals (apart from GSR-VR) ie GSR-I GSR-II GSR-III GSR-X GSR-V etc. GSR-I is the lowest spec Jap import turbo model, the only lower spec model is the GX which is non turbo, solid axle rear end, no power steering etc.

Infact I found a post relating to where that GSR-0 sticker came from - http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.p ... ight=gsriv

And here's a translated spec sheet for the early Jap GSR models (before the GSR-V DASH came along)

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:42 am

Krorz wrote:
thrash wrote:Krorz.. what size are your front brake rotors?
Hmm, I don't really know but I think it's the smaller version.
The car is pretty dirty in that pic, but you can see the front brake rotor:

yep that's the standard 4 stud 256mm bolt on type rotor. The only other one is the 5 stud 276mm hat type rotor.

KiwiStaz · Post by **KiwiStaz** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:46 am

I bought this Jap import without an engine (but it did have a turbo engine) and at that stage had non-power steering. It also had struts and steering similar to early Galant & Celeste models.

Mine is also a jap import with manual steering, no electic windows etc and the stickers say it is GSR-1. It does have an LSD though :D

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:50 am

GT is where it's at! I wonder if I should get a GT-V badge made up when the DASH motor goes in :P

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:16 am

you should then also change your name to dirtyalfa lol

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:17 am

dirtygalant wrote:
yep that's the standard 4 stud 256mm bolt on type rotor. The only other one is the 5 stud 276mm hat type rotor.

hmmm, so the eurospec ones with 276mm rotors were all 5 stud eh?

Are the calipers between the two the same or are they different as well? What about the mounting brackets?

dirtygalant · Post by **dirtygalant** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:54 pm

yeah the 5 stud models are 276mm rotors, 5 stud was on most euro and US models from 85ish onwards, but as we know the JDM GSR-V had 5 stud in '84, and of course all wideys were 5 stud.

I'm fairly sure it's just the two sizes, 4 stud 256mm and 5 stud 276mm. Same with the rears, 4 stud 255mm and 5 stud ???mm.

I would say it's either the calipers or the brackets (could be both!) which are different between the 4 and 5 stud setups. Something is spacing the caliper further out from the hub at least anyway.

thrash · Post by **thrash** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:42 pm

according to the 1986 mitsu starion workshop manual, general export vehicles were 255 mm FS17 type discs front and 247mm AD type discs rear, while the european export ones were 276mm FS17 front and 266mm AD type rear.. don't know what the FS17 and AD types are?

European ones also have a 1inch master cylinder, and general export are 15/16 inch.

Sargeant_Khan · Post by **Sargeant_Khan** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:27 pm

I wouldnt go so far as to say that 0 wouldnt make sense as the rest are in roman numerals...remember the car is named a starion (translation). Lets not forget the mitsubishi ZERO fighter, I would definately find it likely they had some lesser badged model on the street in Japan.

Actually releasing a zero model would relate far too closely to the war machine, so not likely released any where outside of Japan.

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Krorz · Post by **Krorz** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:19 pm

Do you guys know what kind of steering wheel centers were in the different versions of Starions?
My car came with this:

But the '82 parts car has another type which only has the Mitsubishi logo in the center and no turbo logo and it's striped horizontally.

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