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Post by S0LJAH »

im crossing the line at about 6000 in 4th which i thought was quite optimal

tyres im using are toyo r888 195/50/15
but they still spin up if i give it any thing over 3grand on launch

then wheelspin in 1st and usually top half of second
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Post by RiceThief »

Your tyres are the problem mate, they are designed for circuit racing not for drags. Sidewalls will be too stiff and you wont be able to generate enough heat in them to make them sticky enough on a dragstrip.
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Post by quest »

with a starion box behind a 4g63, in a street widebody on 225/50-16 I'd run 3.9.
Because the lancer is significantly lighter, on a slightly smaller diameter low
profile tire (or drag radial), I'd run at least a 3.5 or a bit taller.

My 1st 2dr 81 corolla swap was a 2.0L SOHC staz motor... roughly same weight as the
lancer. With the stock toyota 3.58 + 195/50-15 although close, it still could use a
bit less gear... and it didn't make the torque nor the rev range of you DOHC.

I installed a 3.3 GM diff in my current 2.6 powered corolla.

May sound odd, but have seen lots of quick street cars low ET running less gear than
the heavier donor car. Like this 10sec example I posted here before.
http://www.eville140.com/rx7.html
Took out some gear vs stock 3.55.... now 3.27 + tall rear slick delivers

here is another example, taller gear ratio was only change, nothing else
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26775

of course other variables contribute to impressive low ETs. Won't happen over night.
Lotsa seat time, launch technique, shift point, tire choice, etc.

I was gonna ask if those tires r actually working 4 u
I stick to the exact tire proven on sucessful cars setup similar to mine
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RiceThief wrote:Your tyres are the problem mate, they are designed for circuit racing not for drags. Sidewalls will be too stiff and you wont be able to generate enough heat in them to make them sticky enough on a dragstrip.
there performing .3sec better over 60ft than what i was using before
but in saying that ive lost more than that at the other end LOL
i will be getting m/t et streets when iv worn these out

i really think it is my gbox more than anything, very slow shifting and if i try and slam gears then i either miss or it grinds

over winter im looking at adding roughly 50hp through cams and a bit more boost aswell as raising the rear up so it can squat a little on launch so that would suit a lower diff ratio too?
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Never seen anyone speak good of japanese radials for drag use. Only time they're used locally is if 'some slip' is desireable to nurse driveline parts.
MT ETs, M&H, Hoosier r the popular slicks. Start hooking, u may find your weak links

Staz gbox an ideal match for lower rev SOHC. A cammed up dohc would only make things worse imo. W58 toyota box proven perfect for the task.

Change too many things at once, you'll loose your way.
I wouldn't touch the suspension unless it obviously was a hinderance. Lots of 10sec street cars run bone stock suspension. 10.3sec nissan linked above runs $100 ebay coilovers.

Ditto adding more power. I'd get the most out of what u have first. This car is already loaded with potential. Just to get an idea (all on stock suspension btw).
Clubmember street AE86 1.6 corolla goes 12.1sec T04E @15psi, unopened motor/W58 box.
A 2.0 lancer has a significantly better displacemnet to weight ratio.
My "fast" street car is CA18DET powered rwd KP toyota starlet, near a duplicate of another that has ET 11.1sec, T3/T4 @16psi, again unopened 18yr old motor.
Exceptional displ to wt ratio is why I built it = fast + cheap + reliable
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Post by redzone »

toyo RA-1's are actually really good on the strip. i know a guy who's run 10.7 in a gemini with 225/50/15's in that pattern..


also i was 60 footing my last turbo gemini at 1.8 with advan 032R's. let em down to 15 psi and they were awesome.
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quest wrote:Staz gbox an ideal match for lower rev SOHC. A cammed up dohc would only make things worse imo. W58 toyota box proven perfect for the task.

Change too many things at once, you'll loose your way.
I wouldn't touch the suspension unless it obviously was a hinderance. Lots of 10sec street cars run bone stock suspension. 10.3sec nissan linked above runs $100 ebay coilovers.
my suspension is far from stock thats the issue LOL
i have all of about an inch of suspension travel in the rear, hardly good for squating and finding some traction
also if i raise the rear up slightly i would then be able to fit some et streets, currently there is no clearance for them


i really do think its my gbox hurting me, either that or my driving :oops:
guys at the track on sunday in a couple of near stock s13's with nothing more than front mounts, exhausts and chipped computers are doing low 13s almost getting 12s, all doing higher 60fts than me

my gbox isnt even a staz one by the way but an l200 ute(or d50 trans as you yanks call em)
i am definately looking at a w series conversion but its a big $$
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Post by smodgee »

that suxs :( , is the motor still sweet? i see one of the cam gears is off, was it rolled at the strip? hope your ok
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F@#$ing jebus!!! Wat happened?
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You made baby jebus cry :cry:

I hope your ok, and that some things are salvagable. Sad to see a fellow EX gone. R.I.P. SOLJAH
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Post by JAS »

Shit Mate!!!!!! That sux!!!

Did you roll it?
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makes me feel like throwing up :puke
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Post by dirtygalant »

from oldschool.co.nz...
S0LJAH wrote:yea not too happy to say the least
twas a pretty harmless spin out at ruapuna then hit the ripple strip and over she went
rolled it twice, got alittle banged up but im all good

yea reshell is the answer, most of the modified stuff is ok so itl be another lancer shell
broke the engine mounts and shit tho and cam gear went through the bonnet and snapped
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fuckin bummer, a traccident....
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