light 4G63 crank

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light 4G63 crank

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I'm not saying I'm sold on this but was worth a look from 4G61t site in the states

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http://www.4g61t.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28159
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/produ ... 1a0c8ac07d

dont know if anyone has come across this much lightening of a crank
but it worth a read of the sites
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Looks interesting. I wonder if those weights serve any other purpose than low down torque?
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Post by benny »

i reckon it'd help keep the motor spinning like the flywheel does without added weight to the flywheel. so that crank should help the motor get the revs up quicker but lookout if you looking to cruise up a hill.
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Post by www.18u »

So the cranks not fully counter weighted?

Looks like a fair chunk has been taken off.
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Junkers wrote:Looks interesting. I wonder if those weights serve any other purpose than low down torque?
on gear changes, your revs will drop as quickly as they shoot up when you give it stick.. or quicker perhaps
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Despite the minor draw backs of less take off torque and faster deceleration of revs, it seems like it would have quite a few benefits. You could gain from less rotating inertia and less load on the bearings i.e. more torque to accelerate with. The crank would not have the splash resistance produced by the weights hitting the oil either.

Seems like an expensive option though when light weight flywheels are off the shelf.
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Post by coop1er »

The crankshaft without counterweights would experience more bending forces as well. But I would give one of those cranks a shot anyway :)
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Junkers wrote:Despite the minor draw backs of less take off torque and faster deceleration of revs, it seems like it would have quite a few benefits. You could gain from less rotating inertia and less load on the bearings i.e. more torque to accelerate with. The crank would not have the splash resistance produced by the weights hitting the oil either.

Seems like an expensive option though when light weight flywheels are off the shelf.
If you read the story on there site these guys circuit race you will find that they already run next to no weight in there flywheels
I know myself I'm a little intersted in removing more weight from my 4g54 crank these loose about 2 - 2.5 Kg with a knife edge . getting rid of some more weight would be good
I've already got the flywheel down to 2.9 Kg and the clutch to 2.3 kg
it now starting to get hard to find places to remove weight from
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I have just aquired a knife edged 63 crank but will have to get no2 son to post pics
I've had mine since 03 07 92
85 JB 2323cc DOHC 4G63
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How much did it cost you oldie?
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WidebodyWoody wrote:How much did it cost you oldie?
TRADE SECRET :D
I've had mine since 03 07 92
85 JB 2323cc DOHC 4G63
THE OLDER I GET THE FASTER I WAS
GROWING OLD IS MANDATORY GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL
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OLD FART wrote:I have just aquired a knife edged 63 crank but will have to get no2 son to post pics
how are the pics coming along
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cheaterparts wrote:
OLD FART wrote:I have just aquired a knife edged 63 crank but will have to get no2 son to post pics
how are the pics coming along
Geez you young ones are an impatient lot LOL NO 2 son will hopefully post them for me & you today
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Aww oldie, your no fair :D

Can't wait to see the pics :beer
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OLD FART wrote: Geez you young ones are an impatient lot LOL NO 2 son will hopefully post them for me & you today
I'm not that many footy seasons behind you Rad
but its always good to be thought of as a young fella this side of 50
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