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Does anyone know how bad the engine vibrates if you remove the balance shafts without getting it balanced?
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dumb answer

1.768% on the intergalactic standardised universal vibration chart
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could you Translate?
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uuhhhhh.... weeeeell, i supose about 50/50..... no, more like 70/30.... awww, hell. sure why not, it will work. besides, if it dosent just blame cookie. :D
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Cookie its your fault. I dunno what for or anything but scum said to blame you.

Does anyone know if the engine does vibrate bad?
really would like to know
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Post by mrb1 »

Cam,
not too bad at all except for around 3000 RPM (which I think from memory is 100kph in 5th!) which comes up through the gear stick a bit. If you didn't tell the passenger I don't think they would notice.

However if you get the balance shaft timed wrong BIG vibrations!!!!

The engine acceleration is much improved they really rev out. I would recommend this for club car use. You will notice the difference the first time you drive it. However if you can get it balanced you should (ie.if you are doing a rebuild).
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Post by Cam »

Thanks, I think i shall be attacking the engine.
I wanted to remove the balance shafts and get the engine balanced when i rebuilt it not long ago but the person who helped me wasn't willing to wait that extra week or so.
Now he has to help me do this.
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Post by starion.gsrvr »

you get no gain at all from removing the ballancer so why do it. the only reason ralliart removed this on group A cars was because they had problembs with them seizing at high revs but soon after they found the cause of this and reinstated the ballancer.
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would it be as easy as removing the belt????
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you get the same kind of gains you get from lightening the flywheel, less rotating mass, the engine revs freeer up and down.
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Post by merlin »

i noticed some vibration coming up through the gearstick as well with the balance (silent) shafts removed, otherwise ok.
but my engine had been rebuilt and balanced anyway.

it must consume some power to spin 2 unbalanced lumps of steel at twice engine revolutions. i seem to recall reading on some us staz site that the gain was about 18hp (on a 4G54) at max revs.
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starion.gsrvr wrote:you get no gain at all from removing the ballancer so why do it. the only reason ralliart removed this on group A cars was because they had problembs with them seizing at high revs but soon after they found the cause of this and reinstated the ballancer.
I can assure you, there is definite gains by removing the balance shafts.
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so do you just cut the belt??????????????

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Post by Fuel »

TD05 wrote:so do you just cut the belt??????????????

:x
There are two shafts, cutting the belt will only disable one of them.

So no its not that easy.
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Post by TD05 »

aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! you're killing me..............

i wanna do it......... the easy way :glare: :glare:
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