Dumb Question.

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:45 pm

Does anyone know how bad the engine vibrates if you remove the balance shafts without getting it balanced?

:x :glare:

scum · Post by **scum** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:49 pm

dumb answer

1.768% on the intergalactic standardised universal vibration chart

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:57 pm

could you Translate?
i lost my scum translater

scum · Post by **scum** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:00 pm

uuhhhhh.... weeeeell, i supose about 50/50..... no, more like 70/30.... awww, hell. sure why not, it will work. besides, if it dosent just blame cookie. :D

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:29 pm

Cookie its your fault. I dunno what for or anything but scum said to blame you.

Does anyone know if the engine does vibrate bad?
really would like to know

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:06 pm

Cam,
not too bad at all except for around 3000 RPM (which I think from memory is 100kph in 5th!) which comes up through the gear stick a bit. If you didn't tell the passenger I don't think they would notice.

However if you get the balance shaft timed wrong BIG vibrations!!!!

The engine acceleration is much improved they really rev out. I would recommend this for club car use. You will notice the difference the first time you drive it. However if you can get it balanced you should (ie.if you are doing a rebuild).
Hope this helps.

Cam · Post by **Cam** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:49 pm

Thanks, I think i shall be attacking the engine.
I wanted to remove the balance shafts and get the engine balanced when i rebuilt it not long ago but the person who helped me wasn't willing to wait that extra week or so.
Now he has to help me do this.
Dumb prick.

starion.gsrvr · Post by **starion.gsrvr** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:05 am

you get no gain at all from removing the ballancer so why do it. the only reason ralliart removed this on group A cars was because they had problembs with them seizing at high revs but soon after they found the cause of this and reinstated the ballancer.

TD05 · Post by **TD05** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:10 am

would it be as easy as removing the belt????

CussCuss · Post by **CussCuss** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:36 am

you get the same kind of gains you get from lightening the flywheel, less rotating mass, the engine revs freeer up and down.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:22 am

i noticed some vibration coming up through the gearstick as well with the balance (silent) shafts removed, otherwise ok.
but my engine had been rebuilt and balanced anyway.

it must consume some power to spin 2 unbalanced lumps of steel at twice engine revolutions. i seem to recall reading on some us staz site that the gain was about 18hp (on a 4G54) at max revs.

Cookiemonster · Post by **Cookiemonster** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:42 am

starion.gsrvr wrote:you get no gain at all from removing the ballancer so why do it. the only reason ralliart removed this on group A cars was because they had problembs with them seizing at high revs but soon after they found the cause of this and reinstated the ballancer.

I can assure you, there is definite gains by removing the balance shafts.

TD05 · Post by **TD05** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:02 pm

so do you just cut the belt??????????????

:x

Fuel · Post by **Fuel** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:15 pm

TD05 wrote:so do you just cut the belt??????????????

:x

There are two shafts, cutting the belt will only disable one of them.

So no its not that easy.

TD05 · Post by **TD05** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:35 pm

aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! you're killing me..............

i wanna do it......... the easy way :glare: :glare:

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