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Billet Flywheel and 10" Clutch packages.

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:24 pm
by Superscan
Finally had my brother make a batch of lightened billet steel flywheels and currently there are 6 left.

The flywheel weighs in at 6.15kg
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Still waiting on the final cost but it will be under $400



There are 3 options for the pressure/friction plate.

STREET(organic): 540 ft-lbs (approx 400RWHP) $340
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STREET/RACE(Cushion Button): 650 ft-lbs (approx 470RWHP) $560
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COMPETITION (Carbotic Button): 925 ft-lbs (approx 600RWHP) $450
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The clutch packages weighs in at approx 8.5kg


They are being sold through NPC Performance Clutches in Brisbane, so contact them at info@npcperformanceclutches.com.au or call 07 3277 9403

Doug is the person to speak to.

Cheers.

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:31 am
by EBOULAR
Could be keen, how much In total for flywheel and street clutch plus shipping to auckland? Are these for the g63? Cheers

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:00 am
by Superscan
EBOULAR, contact NPC for shipping costs as all I've done is to talk my brother into making a retail batch of them.


These flywheels will fit either the standard 2.0L Starion 4G63t and the imported Starions with the 2.6L Astron 4G54 (wideblock) engines.

Hope this helps.


Cheers.

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:08 am
by 1320ft
This would be the setup that I have been talking to Doug about via email

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:15 pm
by Superscan
1320ft wrote:This would be the setup that I have been talking to Doug about via email
He showed me your email and aske if it would fit. I informed him that if you were using a Starion block, it will work.

Could have gone lighter but decided 9mm was the thinnest we should go on the thrust surface.
They have gone down to 6mm on some other competition flywheels but as this is for "general consumption", 9mm will allow you to resurface the flywheel several times and still have enough metal to remove the heat when people feather the clutch too much.


Cheers.

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:49 pm
by 1320ft
Superscan wrote:
1320ft wrote:This would be the setup that I have been talking to Doug about via email
He showed me your email and aske if it would fit. I informed him that if you were using a Starion block, it will work.
I'm not using a starion block though! Mine is all VR4

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:54 pm
by Alspos
Stock clutch is 9", still all fits being 10" clutch? Also, does the flywheel come with a centre bearing?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:08 pm
by 1320ft
So will this work for me?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:08 pm
by Superscan
1320ft wrote:I'm not using a starion block though! Mine is all VR4
What gearbox are you planing on using as this will decide what flywheel/clutch will fit?
Alspos wrote:Stock clutch is 9", still all fits being 10" clutch? Also, does the flywheel come with a centre bearing?
Doug believes the clutch will fit so I will say YES. As for the bearing, I honestly don't know but at around $20 for a new one, it won't break the bank if it isn't included.




Another bit of info you might find useful, ARP 203-2801 flywheel bolts fit, but there are 8 of them in the ARP packaging.


Cheers.

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:21 pm
by 1320ft
Superscan wrote:
1320ft wrote:I'm not using a starion block though! Mine is all VR4
What gearbox are you planing on using as this will decide what flywheel/clutch will fit?.
FG Falcon spec Tremec TR-6060 (T-56)

Superscan wrote:
Alspos wrote:Stock clutch is 9", still all fits being 10" clutch? Also, does the flywheel come with a centre bearing?
Doug believes the clutch will fit so I will say YES. As for the bearing, I honestly don't know but at around $20 for a new one, it won't break the bank if it isn't included..
Actually should be around $5 for the bearing.

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:45 pm
by Alspos
Alspos wrote:Stock clutch is 9", still all fits being 10" clutch? Also, does the flywheel come with a centre bearing?
Doug believes the clutch will fit so I will say YES. As for the bearing, I honestly don't know but at around $20 for a new one, it won't break the bank if it isn't included.

Another bit of info you might find useful, ARP 203-2801 flywheel bolts fit, but there are 8 of them in the ARP packaging.


Cheers.
I meant by my question more about getting a bearing the right size and not having to hunt around to find the right one or having to get the flywheel machined to fit one, not so much about saving a few dollars by it being included.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:33 am
by Superscan
1320ft wrote:FG Falcon spec Tremec TR-6060 (T-56)
Is the adapter from Bill Hincher?

1320ft wrote:Actually should be around $5 for the bearing.
The bearings I buy are supposed to be "special" in they are a little loose when cold(not the shell, the actual balls). When they heat up they are on size. This type of bearing is supposed to last longer than an ordinary bearing.

Alspos wrote:I meant by my question more about getting a bearing the right size and not having to hunt around to find the right one or having to get the flywheel machined to fit one, not so much about saving a few dollars by it being included.
Sorry, I assumed it was about the money.. It's possible he sells the bearing, but if not, I'll try to find my spare to get its number. I purchased these from CBC Bearings.


Cheers.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:13 am
by 1320ft
Superscan wrote:
1320ft wrote:FG Falcon spec Tremec TR-6060 (T-56)
Is the adapter from Bill Hincher?
Cheers.
No, I spoke to Bill a couple of weeks ago, his arnt ready yet, so my fabricator is going to knock one up.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:57 am
by Superscan
If you are going with the original starter position for the VR4 engine, you will probably need a VR4 flywheel because they are physically smaller than the Starion flywheel, even though the Starion flywheel will bolt straight on.

If the bellhousing fabricator is good, he should be able to reposition the starter to suit the Starion flywheel PROVIDING it doesn't clash with the bellhousing bolt pattern.

While I'm most likely "Preaching to the Converted" it is still worth mentioning:

Because the bellhousing has to be fabricated, IMHO, using either a Starion or VR4 flywheel would be a better option as you can run "off the shelf" flywheel/clutch solutions, rather than having to fabricate yet another custom part.

That's where Bill Hincher comes into his own.
He does all the research and design, giving you an end product that uses most of the original flywheel/clutch components.
Makes it easier in the future when you need to repair/replace worn out parts. His idea to run the center bearing off the crank rather than in the flywheel is also another very good idea.




Cheers.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:34 pm
by GormzZ
this might seem a bit of a noob question but in no regards to power which of the competition (carbonetic) and street/race (cushion button) clutches would be more suited to clutch kick abuse/drifting/track work? really keen otherwise!