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WTB: Gearbox for research/rebuild.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:44 pm
by Superscan
Looking at doing a narrow-block 5 speed gearbox (Scorpion 2.0L) with the Starion internals for one of my Twincam 4G63 projects.

It's going to be a N/A engine but with a bit more power, aiming for 130kw ATW).

Can't be bothered doing a block swap, and since I have a RVR head with the CAS on the front of the engine, I won't have to "massage" anything either.

A narrow block gearbox with Starion internals will be perfect, light and relatively strong.

Cheers.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:26 pm
by thrash
completely unrelated, but would you mind posting some pics of the rvr head? Is the top cam gear cover the same as the standard head?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:31 pm
by Superscan
thrash wrote:completely unrelated, but would you mind posting some pics of the rvr head? Is the top cam gear cover the same as the standard head?
It's the same as the VR4 and HH/HG GSR heads.
The CAS is bolted on behind the inlet cam gear with an inductive pickup.

Not a great picture but the VR4 head is on the left and the RVR is on the right.

Image

I'll take a few pics tomorrow.

Cheers.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:05 pm
by JDSTAZ45
Sorry Scott, I have been dragging my feet on the gearbox replacement on the GSR-V. I wanted to sort out the power steering first but no success on 2nd hand parts!

I have the spare gearbox for you and will be happy to drop off some time next week. Hopefully I can grab a reconditioned one from you when I am ready! :beer

Also, can you comment on these KM132 gearbox rebuild kits from the States. There are 3 types...the dearer one is for 88-89 widey box.

1. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282267458 ... 1423.l2649
2. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370477084936 ... 1423.l2649
3. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282273324 ... 1423.l2649

:beer

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:04 pm
by Superscan
JDSTAZ45 wrote:Sorry Scott, I have been dragging my feet on the gearbox replacement on the GSR-V. I wanted to sort out the power steering first but no success on 2nd hand parts!
Not a problem. Figured you were busy getting other stuff done. :)
JDSTAZ45 wrote:I have the spare gearbox for you and will be happy to drop off some time next week. Hopefully I can grab a reconditioned one from you when I am ready! :beer
Any time is fine, just give me a call before you head over.
JDSTAZ45 wrote:Also, can you comment on these KM132 gearbox rebuild kits from the States. There are 3 types...the dearer one is for 88-89 widey box.

1. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282267458 ... 1423.l2649
2. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370477084936 ... 1423.l2649
3. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282273324 ... 1423.l2649

:beer
The MMC Transmission manual I have doesn't show any differences between 1 and 2.
No.: 3. is definitely the KM132-M.

There were several upgrades to the KM132-M
Reverse syncro.
Flanged rather than snap ringed bearings.
5th gear and spacer were made into 1 piece along with a few other minor mods.

BTW: the aluminium pan wasn't for gearbox strength, it was because the pressed metal plates were being damaged due to people jacking up the gearbox on it.

Cheers.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:13 pm
by enthuzed
thrash wrote:completely unrelated, but would you mind posting some pics of the rvr head? Is the top cam gear cover the same as the standard head?
I remember looking at this myself.
This will help thrash & there's a reasonable pic half way down:
http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.php?t=12943

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:50 pm
by JJH
Superscan wrote:
JDSTAZ45 wrote:Also, can you comment on these KM132 gearbox rebuild kits from the States. There are 3 types...the dearer one is for 88-89 widey box.

1. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282267458 ... 1423.l2649
2. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370477084936 ... 1423.l2649
3. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282273324 ... 1423.l2649

:beer
The MMC Transmission manual I have doesn't show any differences between 1 and 2.
No.: 3. is definitely the KM132-M.

There were several upgrades to the KM132-M
Reverse syncro.
Flanged rather than snap ringed bearings.
5th gear and spacer were made into 1 piece along with a few other minor mods.
So which kit should/can we use for our Starion boxes?
Thanks

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:52 pm
by JJH
Superscan wrote:
JDSTAZ45 wrote:Also, can you comment on these KM132 gearbox rebuild kits from the States. There are 3 types...the dearer one is for 88-89 widey box.

1. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282267458 ... 1423.l2649
2. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370477084936 ... 1423.l2649
3. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390282273324 ... 1423.l2649

:beer
The MMC Transmission manual I have doesn't show any differences between 1 and 2.
No.: 3. is definitely the KM132-M.

There were several upgrades to the KM132-M
Reverse syncro.
Flanged rather than snap ringed bearings.
5th gear and spacer were made into 1 piece along with a few other minor mods.
So which kit should/can we use for our Starion boxes?
Thanks

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:21 pm
by 1320ft
I'll tell you tomorrow