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600x300x76 Bar and Plate Intercooler

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:51 pm
by Lunacy
As title says
Never been used, just test mounted.
Dont want to destroy my bumper mounts to fit it so going for a smaller one.
On trademe, will pull the auction if someone here wants it.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 489554.htm
PM me if interested
Cheers

intercooler

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:36 pm
by 4gpwr
I have the same size cooler on my Ja I mounted it upside down with the pipes at the top .

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:16 am
by WidebodyWoody
Which is a much better way of mounting them. Gives shorter piping.

Woody

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:06 am
by 4gpwr
How come you ask the yanks for advice, on your motor ask for advice here

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:56 am
by WidebodyWoody
Who askes the yanks? Besides there isn't anything wrong with asking too many people their opinions. Unless they are Roger :beer

Re: intercooler

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:25 pm
by Lunacy
4gpwr wrote:I have the same size cooler on my Ja I mounted it upside down with the pipes at the top .
Want to mount it down in the front bar for maximum airflow, and unfortunately it wont fit there, the airflow is too impeded for my liking mounted upside down

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:40 pm
by FST4RD
Swap you for my factory front mount :D

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:29 pm
by Lunacy
FST4RD wrote:Swap you for my factory front mount :D
Haha yeah.................................naaaaaaaa :D

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:01 pm
by RiceThief
Hey if you dont mind massaging your front rails you could fit a intercooler that size as you want to mount it low.

Re: intercooler

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:10 pm
by 4gpwr
Lunacy wrote:
4gpwr wrote:I have the same size cooler on my Ja I mounted it upside down with the pipes at the top .
Want to mount it down in the front bar for maximum airflow, and unfortunately it wont fit there, the airflow is too impeded for my liking mounted upside down
There are pros and cons for evey mounting position , an intercooler is basicly a heat sink , biger intercoolers are more lagy , but are going to take longer to heat up , even if a intercooler is mounted in direct air flow once it has heated up it would take quite a few min at highway speeds to remove the heat . I would tell you to keep it stealth , stuff the biggest core you can fit , and keep your intake pipe away from anything that would cause it to grab heat , like running it over the turbo .

Wide body Woodduck

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:36 pm
by 4gpwr
WidebodyWoody wrote:Who askes the yanks? Besides there isn't anything wrong with asking too many people their opinions. Unless they are Roger :beer
Who is Roger ? Last lover ? :o Do I make you think of him ? :oops: Must be a few Widebody woodducks in this world .

Re: intercooler

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:11 am
by Lunacy
4gpwr wrote:
Lunacy wrote:
4gpwr wrote:I have the same size cooler on my Ja I mounted it upside down with the pipes at the top .
Want to mount it down in the front bar for maximum airflow, and unfortunately it wont fit there, the airflow is too impeded for my liking mounted upside down
There are pros and cons for evey mounting position , an intercooler is basicly a heat sink , biger intercoolers are more lagy , but are going to take longer to heat up , even if a intercooler is mounted in direct air flow once it has heated up it would take quite a few min at highway speeds to remove the heat . I would tell you to keep it stealth , stuff the biggest core you can fit , and keep your intake pipe away from anything that would cause it to grab heat , like running it over the turbo .
Yep your right there are pros and cons for all positions. As the car is a track car running a twincam 4g63 with a 20g turbo i dont think theres gonna be a whole lot of difference between using this one or a 500x300 one. And the piping will be as short as possible and well shielded from all heat too :)

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:21 am
by WidebodyWoody
If you don't know Roger then you should consider yourself lucky. Although he is great for a laugh, you would soon be finding yourself wanting to find, and kill him rofl


Yeah with the Piping I would keep the pipe size to 2.5" if it was a long cooler. Try and help minimise the lag gained from the larger cooler.

pipes

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:46 am
by 4gpwr
I would run the hot side of the cooler pipe the same size as the turbo outlet up to the cooler , then on the other side the pipe the same as the throttle body , heard talk about some sort of expansion and reducution of a pipe size to increase air speed , even saw some weird pipe work on a wrc car , it went from 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 or bigger back down to 2 1/2 . Thought about runing the intercooler , intake pipe with dougnut bends in a sealed box filled with dry ice to see if it will pull heat from the intake charge and how affective.

Re: pipes

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:05 am
by Lunacy
4gpwr wrote:I would run the hot side of the cooler pipe the same size as the turbo outlet up to the cooler , then on the other side the pipe the same as the throttle body , heard talk about some sort of expansion and reducution of a pipe size to increase air speed , even saw some weird pipe work on a wrc car , it went from 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 or bigger back down to 2 1/2 . Thought about runing the intercooler , intake pipe with dougnut bends in a sealed box filled with dry ice to see if it will pull heat from the intake charge and how affective.
Yep have seen increasing pipe diameter before. Am pretty set on 2.5" as this will give minimal lag, but still flow enough to hit some decent numbers.
Like the sound of dry ice box, think that would probably be quite effective.