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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:28 am
by dirtygalant
Also, I struggle to see how an engine wrapped up in plastic for 25 years untouched, regardless how many kms it has done is going to be any better and demand a premium over any other engine. Just think how long those rings have been sitting in the same position in the bores, surely the oil would have degraded somewhat and sludged up sometime in that 25 years!

Dunno about everyone else but I would rather an engine which has been freshly running even if it's a higher km motor. Those 25 year old motors would only be good for stripping down and rebuilding with new rings/bearings etc as the pistons and bore wouldn't have worn down at all, yet there would probably be some surface rust developing on the bores at some stage.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:19 pm
by mrb1
flav wrote:Check it out............ 05 turbo, compact exhaust, 4g62 def. Lancer/cordia (not this one tho) Tredia.... sorry people, NOT STARION.
This is a 1.8 L engine.

110kw @ 6000 rpm.

Everyone can thank Moz for going all the way out there to suss it out for us people. Good boy mozzie!! pat pat!
Yes I agree and water pump mechanical fan is not Starion!

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:51 pm
by redzone
incorrect, some jap spec cars had a clutch driven engine fan, including the dash cars.

my guess is these engines are out of a pajero mini though.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:40 pm
by flav
Red baby, correct me if im wrong but a clutch fan in a starion would mean deletion of the thermo units,, which are run by the loom and that would mean loom deletion of that area, which kinda doesnt make sense. But I, myself have not seen a clutch fan staz with a g62 at all! This could possibly be one of those rare sigma eci turbo units? They had clutch fans, there is one here now and mate, it's not much fun as the starion loom is different to the siggy.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:42 pm
by flav
oooh...and by the way...did sum 1 say dash? These are not dash engines.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:26 am
by dirtygalant
The only RWD cars to the have the G62B was the EX Lancer 1800GSR like this:

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Jap spec Pajeros, Galant/Eterna Sedans and Galant/Eterna coupes like mine all had the G63B 2000cc, with the early models having clutch fan. There are plenty of jap spec Starions with clutch fans too.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:57 am
by JD_Stazza_Brendan
Pic shows cat converter dump pipe. Would this mean later model motor? Or did Japan have Cats fitted earlier then 86.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:15 am
by kiwi_EX
Pic shows cat converter dump pipe. Would this mean later model motor? Or did Japan have Cats fitted earlier then 86.
My parents jap spec import 1982 Corolla (2TGEU motor) had a cat fitted standard.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:14 am
by dirtygalant
Japanese have not had leaded fuel since like.. forever. My 1980 Eterna certainly had a cat converter and an O2 sensor fitted from factory.

The motor is definitely early model though, the later model EX 1800GSR motors had a different rocker cover as well as being intercooled with a different crossover pipe to what the Starions had.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:55 am
by airbats801
dirtygalant wrote:The only RWD cars to the have the G62B was the EX Lancer 1800GSR like this:

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Jap spec Pajeros, Galant/Eterna Sedans and Galant/Eterna coupes like mine all had the G63B 2000cc, with the early models having clutch fan. There are plenty of jap spec Starions with clutch fans too.
I just got a monster boner


As for sitting for 25 years, yeah I had a enigne sit in a car in a garage for 10 and it's all muched up and surface rust ont eh cylinders, just slight rust, but everything on the engine that had oil on it is gummed up. The tensioner is stuck in. That is a g54b.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:47 am
by flav
errr...dude.. the 'monster boner' thing? .......waay toooo much information!

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:29 pm
by redzone
flav wrote:Red baby, correct me if im wrong but a clutch fan in a starion would mean deletion of the thermo units,, which are run by the loom and that would mean loom deletion of that area, which kinda doesnt make sense. But I, myself have not seen a clutch fan staz with a g62 at all! This could possibly be one of those rare sigma eci turbo units? They had clutch fans, there is one here now and mate, it's not much fun as the starion loom is different to the siggy.

the dash GSR-V nose cut and front panels i acquired had an engine driven fan and fan shroud, and a radiator with no temp sensor in the bottom. and planty of other import starions i've seen have had engine fans aswell..

yes i realise they're not dash engines! i was referring to my point above..

the pajero mini's had starion type engines in some models, a lot of "starion" import motors are actually out of these. they had one in a front cut at a gold coast jap importer a few years ago...

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:22 am
by dirtygalant
Pajero Minis? They were just your normal SWB 3dr models but instead of the carb 2.6 or diesel 2.5T they had the G63B turbo. This shape:

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This is a Pajero Mini, and came much later in the late 90s/early 2000s

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:05 am
by kiwieurospec
Mate had one of those turbo Pajeros, we hads to carry extra fuel tanks to the ski field lol. Was pointless.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:52 am
by redzone
i thought they had an earlier version of the mini pajero from early 90's? and they still ran the 8 valve 63...... my brother saw this one i'm talking about maybe he can shed some light on what it was..