Why are our cars so unsafe?

[Marc]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Roa ... s+Cars.htm

:D

[OLD FART]

THE MOST UNSAFE THING WITH ANY CAR IS THE LOOSE NUT BEHIND THE WHEEL LOL

[Alspos]

No airbags, ABS, etc. 25 year old technology doesn't compete well with much younger technology.

[Junkers]

Seat belts in the doors, poor crumple zones etc

[tri26t]

What a load fella!s !

Ive waisted a few old Starions (rusted out shells)
and I think they are average: front on into an XF-con
ute at 25K!s (diliberate) over jump,90 deg Right
and slap a Hq van (bounced off O.K) full throttle
reverse (offset 25-35 deg) still drove but draggin
bumper, But then thinking nothing would stop her
I drove square on through the doorway of the XF-con
(it had no doors) and the whole front geomitry was
stuffed
The thing I dont get is why is it rated so low, there
are a sh-t load of rally starions round here and when
you jump them they land alright without too much
boot sag.
Well Ok, They Are A Bit Soft In Construction, but I think
half the problem is rigidity
Cheers:Phil.

[chunkhead]

The rating has nothing to do with how well the car will survive. I've already proved how strong the Starion is.

What is the problem is that the car will plough into the other object and project ALL the force onto the people within the car, most likely doing serious damage or death.

The Starion doesn't crumple, absorb impact or collapse in any way to ensure the drivers safety.

When the Starion was built, designers believed that the stronger the car was, the safer the passenger... not true.

[hcca]

VB Commo had good crumple zones:



The human body can withstand a fair amount of force - it's all the other stuff hitting you that causes the problems. If you are well restrained (ie. proper harness and seats) and nothing hits you, you might be ok.

Still, even though I think i'm a fairly safe driver, I am concerned about the Starion's safety since it always rates poorly even for cars of similar age. I'm wondering how much a proper roll cage and harnesses would affect test results?

[enthuzed]

[Clears throat and puts on Kamahl's voice] Why are people so unkind?

Hcca, nice pussy btw, and even better video of crumpledoor! LOL

And Phil, you've been having waaay too much fun!
Can I join you, please, please, please...?

[woops]

Also there are often different places that the statistics are gotten from that will give different results. With these results were they gattered from data from crash test dummies and smashing the cars into things or were the figures actually gotten from the actual amount of seriuos injuries vs the amount of accidents.

If the stats are gotten from the injuries vs crashes then it is pretty common to see cars that are faster than other cars of the same vintage have worse results as the cars that are slower are more likely to be involved in slower accidents. Also the type of driver attracted to a starion on average is different then say one to a corona. More potential for speed and therefore more likely to use it.

[woops]

Also when you look at the figures the sigma's are rated higher than the starions even though the front ends are very similiar and the boddies aren't really that much different in comparison, relatively speaking anyway.
Yet the starion has better handling and brakes both forms of active safety features to prevent you getting into a crash initially. So it makes sence that when you do crash you would be often going a faster speed to finnally lose control.

[tri26t]

Im going to let those stats alone now
and drive round a little more causious
that way offsetting the averages in the
favour of the Starion, "Deal" ??????????

Cheers:Phil.

[Mr Ralliart]

I couldn't be bothered looking at those stats .
Magazine tests of the day rated the Starion very highly .

Personal experience has shown me how strong Mitsubishi's are on many occasions , and the strength of the Starion shell is literally legendary . When I've spoken to people who were involved with racing them in Australia , Europe and Japan , the most common comments were always about how strong they were ( and crap the wiring was . . . .) . It was commonplace for a Starion to have a cage thrown in and that was it where as everything else of the day had very extensive seam welding .

So yes , if the focus is 'crumple zones' , then the Starion is a poor performer . :P

[redzone]

^^^ but as we all know, crumple zones are only good in certain stuations. like government crash testing for example. i know if i had to be in an accident, i'd rather be in a starion. maybe one fitted with racing harnesses though! :D

[compressor]

VB Commo had good crumple zones:



The human body can withstand a fair amount of force - it's all the other stuff hitting you that causes the problems. If you are well restrained (ie. proper harness and seats) and nothing hits you, you might be ok.

Still, even though I think i'm a fairly safe driver, I am concerned about the Starion's safety since it always rates poorly even for cars of similar age. I'm wondering how much a proper roll cage and harnesses would affect test results?

dammmmmm what a death trap

[OLD FART]

Those crazy Germans seem to have started drifting waaaay earlier than the Japs
I can see why the vws were designed with that body shape easier to roll back right way up LOL