The 'old timers' of turbo cars

logik · Post by **logik** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:07 pm

Starions have some secret respect from the 'old timers' of turbo cars.

A while ago i had someone come and install security windows on a house i was renting, and as he walked through the garage to get to the back he
sorta stopped and looked blankly at my car.

'I havent seen one of these things in 15 years' and then he started. Telling me about how these things were excellent for circuit racing and how he owned a turbocharged datsun 1600 in his earlier days 'smoke the wheels in 3rd gear on 18psi, pity the motors dont last long'.

Just thinking about it, ive had a few people walk past my car in the street and i actually had receptionist come up to me quite worried 'theres three older guys hanging around your car' came down and get in to move it and another 'i remember when we used to run 14psi with no intercooler' convo started.

You know you've got a winner if people stop and look at your car even though it is a rusted bucket of shit :D

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:16 pm

Yep, I took my car for a WOF and a ~30-35 year old guy came out.

"Oh wow, I haven't seen one of these in ages!

When I was a kid my father used to work for Mitsi, brought home all the latest sports car, we had a Cordia, with the 1.6 turbo, but when he came home with this, wow, a TWO LITRE turbo...." and I cant remember the rest of his words, but it was something along the lines of Starion was a real sports car, they loved it, were amazed as kids etc etc

Now Im known by him as the Starion man, and I will always take the car back there. Was quite neat hearing that instead of 'whats that'. This was when I had the smacked front bumper still on it, no logo, and mis-matched doors.

In the past Ive had my Mitsubishi Starion called a 'Nissan Starion' on a WOF spec sheet, guy was like 'oh it didnt say', I was thinking 'the big 3 diamond badge on the front, and MMC logo on the steering wheel, and the reg that says MITSUBISHI kind of gives it away.

A co-worker of my father found out I had a Starion, and said the opposite 'oh he should of got a Cordia, they were way faster' hehe so I guess there was a bit of the ol' Cordia vs Starion thing going on back in the day.

jrod82 · Post by **jrod82** » Wed May 18, 2005 7:41 am

SpidersWeb wrote:A co-worker of my father found out I had a Starion, and said the opposite 'oh he should of got a Cordia, they were way faster' hehe so I guess there was a bit of the ol' Cordia vs Starion thing going on back in the day.

I've got an old Wheels magazine articles that says exactly that - the Cordia is quicker off the mark. The problem is that you can't turn corners..

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:08 am

being FWDs' they should be able to fly in n out of corners..........

I always gain so much time/ground on the cars infront going round those big squares in town that I just can't believe that statement :D

hoongirl · Post by **hoongirl** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:09 am

I've had this sort of thing happen alot since I got my first starion more than 5 years ago. Makes me feel a little better about the $$ I've spent if someone appreciates it :D

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Wed May 18, 2005 11:06 am

toysrus wrote:being FWDs' they should be able to fly in n out of corners..........

I always gain so much time/ground on the cars infront going round those big squares in town that I just can't believe that statement :D

Ive never driven a Cordia, so dunno, but on the whole RWD are quicker in the turns. Everytime Ive owned FWD cars, understeer has pissed me off something chronic.

On FWD you are asking the tyres to turn the car and pull the car. On RWD it splits the load. Also (unless you have some good sprigs in the rear that is), when you accelerate the front raises, giving less drive-wheel grip to a FWD, but what would be more grip to a RWD.

Id say your car is setup better than the other racers, but still RWD is my choice, 4WD would be sweet too. I guess having some good rear springs and big fattie front tyres FWD cars would go pretty hard tho :)

(Im not saying Starion is better than Cordia, or vice versa, Ive never driven a Cordia.)

gotrice? · Post by **gotrice?** » Wed May 18, 2005 12:10 pm

yeah i've asked this many times and it always turns out the cordia is faster point to point, but the starion is a better all round performer.

Post by **Alspos** » Wed May 18, 2005 12:29 pm

SpidersWeb wrote:(Im not saying Starion is better than Cordia, or vice versa, Ive never driven a Cordia.)

Hey Spidey, does your butt get sore from the fence pailings? rofl

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Wed May 18, 2005 12:53 pm

rofl

yeah, well personally Id never buy a Cordia, but I didnt wanna make this in to one of those 'my car is better' threads. Any FWD I own in the future, will be for grocery shopping only.

MrBishi · Post by **MrBishi** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:03 pm

SpidersWeb wrote:rofl

yeah, well personally Id never buy a Cordia, but I didnt wanna make this in to one of those 'my car is better' threads. Any FWD I own in the future, will be for grocery shopping only.

Amen. FWD=teh gay

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:20 pm

very funny :x :P

But yes, suspension is set-up nicely, in fact a bit too stiff, including some 225mm wide Fronts and a strut brace, I here by challenge any rwds to a duel around those squares in town, now who's game......

Glenjo · Post by **Glenjo** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:13 pm

Challenge accepted. Then I challenge you to a run through some tight twisties, open sweepers, wet roads, and anything else the resembles everyday driving. Then we'll have a burn out comp

:D

CussCuss · Post by **CussCuss** » Wed May 18, 2005 4:39 pm

i think the whole fwd vs rwd thing can never be settled, it is true that rwd is a better platform to work with but if you take a type R vs a stock starion i know wich one is gonna be faster so theres allot of different variables.

Something somone else said on a forum comes to mind here, stiff springs on the rear will not change the weight transfer on a car. Best way of thinking of this is what would happen if you stood on a scale once with a normal spring and once with a stiffer spring, assuming the spring weight is the same, they are gonna read exactly the same.

logik · Post by **logik** » Wed May 18, 2005 5:39 pm

im just gonna be a pig head about this

fwd is fucked

you cant do proper burnouts
you cant go drifting (before you hit reply, no you cant because it looks sooooooooo stupid ASSDRAGGIN haha)
you cannot turn a corner at speed
so much easier to break shit

but if its a cordia, it was made by mitsu so i'll let it go ;)

Junkers · Post by **Junkers** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:42 pm

We once had someone come up and deliver something to our house, the fellow stopped and asked who owned the staz, apparently his wife is a fanatic, quote "She'd love you for it".

Starions are great cars, It's good owning a car that gets recognition from older people too, mainly older people at that (coming from an 18 yo).

Personally I'm a RWD fan, FWD has to many cons for my liking, I've never really liked the west/east engine setup.

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