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Forgive me guys/gals, I'm in the US...

1. You only got the Starion to 1985, so no Widebody, right?
2. Your Starion didn't have LSD?
3. What years did the hood-scoop appear on?
4. What year did your Starion start, '82 or '83?
5. What versions were there, LE, EX, etc.?
6. What year did they start intercooling your Starion?
7. 2.0 4G63 SOHC, right?
8. Did you have a new-car sales brochure for each year?
9. Anyone got an exterior color list?

Please forgive all the questions, but the Aussie market cars are very different from the US market cars. In return for your answers I'll give you the same ones from the US market.

1. Our production was from '83-'89 ('86-'89 Widebody, Flatty still available in '87)
2. All were LSD.
3. Hood Scoop only on '83 model year cars.
4. Ours started in '83.
5. EX, LS, LE, ESi, ESi (Widebody), ESiR, TSi
6. 85.5 for us (some)
7. 2.6L G54B
8. We had them all but for the '89 Starion
9. Here's the Widebody list, 19 colors in all, and I'm sorry I don't have the Flatside list :(.

Atlantic Blue
Balt Blue (also called Tahoe Blue)
Dakar Sand
Durban Maroon
Eiger Silver
Fiji Blue
Grace Silver
Mexican Red (also called Rio Red)
Olive Gray
Palermo Gray
Polar White
San Marino Yellow
Sarajevo White
Serbia Black
Seychelles Red
Shetland Beige
Sophia White
Valencia Gold
Windsor Red

Some of these cars are so rare that I don't even have a single pic, like Olive Gray, Windsor Red, Seychelles Red, and Balt Blue (only have 1 picture).


Anyway, sorry for the long post, if there is anything you want to add to my questions please do, and if you need any answers, feel free to ask :).
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Also, does anyone know all the markets the Starion was produced for?

1. Aussie
2. US
3. Japan
4. German
5. Netherlands

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1. You only got the Starion to 1985, so no Widebody, right? Yup
2. Your Starion didn't have LSD? Was a factory option
3. What years did the hood-scoop appear on? JA model, 82-84
4. What year did your Starion start, '82 or '83? manufactured in 82, complied etc in 83
5. What versions were there, LE, EX, etc.? JA, JB, JD
6. What year did they start intercooling your Starion? JD
7. 2.0 4G63 SOHC, right? yes
8. Did you have a new-car sales brochure for each year? yes
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They are also in Russia, Switzerland and Iceland. Pics have been up here in the past.


1. Yes
2. LSD was an option on all models I beleive
3. JA 82-83
4. 82
5. one version. Imports etc can be EX, LX etc
6. JD around 85
7. Yes all of ours are 2.0 4G63 SOHC from the factory
8. No idea, probably just for each of the 3 models I would suspect.
9. I don't. Others may. Have seen yellow, white, gold, dark blue, red, silver, black, maroon/champagne, blue/silver, grey/silver,

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did the hood scoop appear on the JB model aswell?
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No, hood scoop is 100% JA! It just seems everyone changes their JB's to the the JA hood!?
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Re: A few questions...

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Reply regarding Japanese import flat-bodied Starions
UltimateLurker wrote:Forgive me guys/gals, I'm in the US...

1. You only got the Starion to 1985, so no Widebody, right?
1988 but rare
2. Your Starion didn't have LSD?
Later models yes, most no, but was a factory option
3. What years did the hood-scoop appear on?
Pretty much all of them except 1987/88 I think
4. What year did your Starion start, '82 or '83?
1982
5. What versions were there, LE, EX, etc.?
GSR,GSR-II,GSR-III,GSR-X depending on options
6. What year did they start intercooling your Starion?
1985 I beleive
7. 2.0 4G63 SOHC, right?
Yes, with TC05-12
8. Did you have a new-car sales brochure for each year?
NFI
9. Anyone got an exterior color list?
Mine is grey/silver two tone, thats all I know
NZ new models were a different case, no bonnet scoops, LSD, leather, most had ABS and some had traction control. Seems to be hard to find even in NZ tho. They were the EX ES ESiR etc.
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OK, I'm getting conflicting information here...

JA - 82-83
JB - 84-?
JD - 85 only ?

- Was the first year 82 or 83?
- LSD was a factory option for all years?
- 85 was the only year your car was intercooled?

alspos: By one version you mean, they weren't called anything? Like EX, or LE, etc.?

SpidersWeb: You mention a GSR-X, but I'm not aware of any such vehicle. Mitsubishi used Roman Numerals for the GSR, as in I II III IV & VR, but no X that I'm aware of, could you give me a little more info?

Your intercooled model turbo was a TD05, correct?

What is "NFI"?
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1982-1985.5 Japanese Starions came in three option levels - I II III and X.

GSR-X is the fully optioned model. It had VELNAS (trip computer system), leather interior, cruise control, all the goodies. Im buying an 82 GSR-X soon for parts.

There is also a GS, solid rear axle, no turbo, no ECI. Never seen one, I just know it exists from that 1982 Japanese Mitsi spec sheet we had translated.

NFI=no f'ing idea

Japanese intercooled definately had a TC05-12A
Pretty sure the non-intercooled had it also, and no idea about NZ new models. Aussie had TC06-11 I beleive.
Also top speed is around 210KPH, due to the close ratio 3.9 diff found in the Jap Starions. I can take off in 3rd gear :wtf:
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UltimateLurker wrote:OK, I'm getting conflicting information here...

JA - 82-83
JB - 84-?
JD - 85 only ?

- Was the first year 82 or 83?
- LSD was a factory option for all years?
- 85 was the only year your car was intercooled?

alspos: By one version you mean, they weren't called anything? Like EX, or LE, etc.?

SpidersWeb: You mention a GSR-X, but I'm not aware of any such vehicle. Mitsubishi used Roman Numerals for the GSR, as in I II III IV & VR, but no X that I'm aware of, could you give me a little more info?

Your intercooled model turbo was a TD05, correct?

What is "NFI"?
I think JB was 84 to part way into 85, JD 85 and sold into 86 but there were only about 160 JD's sold.
First year was 82. I have one. Made and first registered in 82
LSD was optional for all but not many people ticked the box.
JD was the only one that was factory intercooled. Along with the introduction of unleaded fuel, cat converters etc.
No versions in Aus, just Starion.

NFI = No F*cking Idea :D
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Also, my Japanese Starion (not aussie, or NZ, talking Japan model), has no cat, was intercooled factory, and is the A183 chassis (equiv. to Aus JB).

I dont call it a JB anymore, because the Japs kind of mixed things up a bit, using some bits JA style, some bits JB style, so Im gonna stick with my chassis code for now :)
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JAPANESE STARIONS - My observations from observing heaps of imports here.

1. Jap Narrowbody Starions run from 1982 - 1987, They started the Widebody in 1986, and sold it untill EARLY 1990.

2. LSD Final Drives were an option, and very very rare. They came on both the 4 stud and 5 stud models if specified.

3. Ive seen Jap imports as late at 1985 with factory hood scoop bonnets. (My 1985 jap import had one)

4. 1982

5. Jap import models? There was HEAPS, GSR I, GSR II, GSR III, GSR V, GSR X. GSR I's have no Psteer, no Pwindows, Vinyl interior and so forth... GSR II's had all the power options, GSR III's were the same, but with the Velnas computer. GSR V's are Weird, ive seen a few variations, a 1984 5 stud model that was factory intercooled and had the 12 valve dash engine (All factory). My 1985 GSR V was 4 stuf, had the 8 valve engine, but was factory intercooled. GSR X Had leather, Power, Cruise, but no intercooler.
That being said, ive seen a 1984 GSR III that was factory intercooled aswell. All depends on what options the original buyer ticked.

6. 1983 is the earliest i've seen.

7. Yes, all ag63 SOHC, Some have the dash 12v head. Most (if not all) jap widebodies are the 2.6.

8. Neg, sorry.

9. Neg, sorry.

I also took some pictures a while back of a 1982 NON-TURBO starion, had shitty seats, different holes in firewall and radiator support panel, and a solid axel rear end! Also had no bonnet scoop.
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85 GSR-III intercooled here, no velnas, but I did get a 3 tier stereo system, which could explain that. I did find some rather large plugs, with huge loom, that go nowhere, and dont connect to the speakers. So perhaps ticking the 'stereo' box just meant they removed the VELNAS unit and fitted the extra audio components in its place. Looks like Im going to have to do some exploring.
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chunkhead wrote:No, hood scoop is 100% JA! It just seems everyone changes their JB's to the the JA hood!?
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StazzyBabyYeah wrote:did the hood scoop appear on the JB model aswell?
Both the A182 and A183 Japanese Starions got the bonnet scoop. In Aus the A183 (JB) had a flat bonnet.
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