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Car Power Restrictions on P platers (NSW) from 2005

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:44 am
by fr335tyl3r
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Ban ... 19453.html

Sounds like its going to happen. If anyone can find any exact details on the power-weight or capacity-weight they want to enforce, i'de be interested. Looks like it will only affect P1 drivers though (Red P-Platers) so I can still drive the starion :)

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:20 pm
by Glenjo
Red P platers? Do you have stages to your P's? I saw that article on new.com.au, didn't post it up here because.. well i live in Melbourne.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:06 pm
by chunkhead
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at what point were P Platers NOT banned from driving high powered vehicles? To be honest, it pisses me off, I'm just off my "P's", after almost 4 years mind you, and it annoys me that now any wanker with mammy and daddy's money can just buy what they like, drive like tools and go and kill some innocent other driver! P platers ARE restricted to only drive vehicles up to 125kw per tonne power to weight ratio! And if you look at that reasonably, there is a huge range of cars within that block which are perfect for you to "learn" to drive! But for some bizzarre reason, police everywhere seem to not care anymore and these twats are still driving around! I'm sorry to ramble on, but i'm tired of this crap, and where I live all I see is "P" platers driving around in WRX, Supra's, Skylines, 200sx, 300zx, 180sx and don't get me started on VL Calais's! I've been almost killed numerous times by these wanker rich kids or bogan scum thinking they own the god damn road! I work hard for my money, I know what it takes to get my cars up to scratch and I respect the cars more for it! It don't need a handout to be respected! I earn it! :glare:

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:17 am
by evogalant
I saw this on the news tonight, they said p platers would no longer be able to drive turbocharged, supercharged or V8's. Dosn't sound like there will be any specific power to weight ratio just a complete ban

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:56 am
by fr335tyl3r
Here is the full story for you to clear things up...

Chunk: NSW P Platers have no restrictions...only melb p platers have these rules applied on them, we did not have restrictions here until now.

Basically what is happening is when a car is registered it will be tagged as a "power" vehicle or normal vehicle. If the car falls into this power category (the means by which they determine these cars is unknown, but it seems modern turbos, v8s and supercharged cars will be on the list), and you are a red p plater, you will not be allowed to drive it.

The new rules take use of our tier'd p plate system here in nsw (ie, red p plates for first yr, green p plates for next 2 years) so only red p platers will have the restrictions applied to them. In addition to this, all p platers (red and green) will have a 1 passenger limit at ALL times restriction placed upon them.

Also, all red p platers, upon holding their license for between 6 and 12 months must complete a mandatory defensive driver course (at least they are doing something right!).

Hope this helps.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:46 am
by decoy
sounds reasonable... except the 1 passanger thing. that should be only afer nightfall or something. nothing wrong with a p-plater car full of hot chicks heading to the beach! just the car full of dickheads at night who cruise looking for trouble.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:55 pm
by Glenjo
I'll second that. Twice.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:27 pm
by fil
I thought it was a blanket ban for all p platers except those who already own the cars. And the one passenger was to be for reds and those who have lost there license.?

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:41 pm
by SIRIUS
well im just adding my 2 cents... if anyone wants to drive a high powered car they should go through a experienced driving test... i have seen some really bad older drivers too... its not so much the car that is too dangerous for them as you can speed in any bucket of shit... it is the drivers them self that are just twats... there is a time an place if u want to give your car a bit of a hammering

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:34 pm
by CaptainShiner
well I reckon if someone wants to drive a high powered car and drive it fast, join a sporting or racing car club and do it on the race track. I live a couple of hours from Brisbane and even still there is a race track within 40 mins drive you can hire for the day for $25.00. Clean cheap safe and legal fun..... thats my 1/2 cent

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:34 pm
by cheaterparts
CaptainShiner wrote:well I reckon if someone wants to drive a high powered car and drive it fast, join a sporting or racing car club and do it on the race track. I live a couple of hours from Brisbane and even still there is a race track within 40 mins drive you can hire for the day for $25.00. Clean cheap safe and legal fun..... thats my 1/2 cent
the problem is that to many younger drivers end up dead its a fact
maybe nothing can be done about it
taking high powered cars from low powered divers may not be a bad thing and lets face it the average P plater in the first 12 months is not realy up to speed
however shiner has a point a control inviroment ( race track ) is the best way to learn

and that my 2 bobs werth

stephen

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:34 pm
by chunkhead
I wasn't having a go at anyone, I was just saying what I think! I'm just tired of the bullshit you know! Bit shitty about the passenger restriction! Can they really do that?

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:03 am
by fr335tyl3r
they do the passenger restriction in NZ. so yes they can do it.

And to answer ure q's huever wasnt sure about the enforcement of the laws:

REGARDLESS of whether your car is already bought and registered...if you are a red p plater you CANNOT own or drive a high powered vehicle (as classified by the RTA) under the new legislation.

Passenger rule in its current form will apply to ALL p platers at ALL Times of day...

Just clearing things up :)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:35 am
by tmz_99
I wonder who will sit there and go through every model of car avaiable on the australian market, EVER and decide weather or not its a performance car or not..:P Im betting quite a few will be forgotten.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:02 pm
by decoy
how long do u have to stay on Ps for in nsw? only 1 year here or until your 19.