newbie starion q's

yeeeehah · Post by **yeeeehah** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:42 pm

Hello all,

before anyone has a go; yes i have done a search.

Anyways i need some info on the widebody starion:

What's the exact weight?
Does it come standard with LSD?
What would it cost from JAPAN?

thanx in advance
cheers

NXTIME · Post by **NXTIME** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:39 pm

Curb Weight: 3037lbs (5spd) - which is about 1380kgs & 3097lbs (auto) - which is about 1407 kgs. NOTE, these are for US cars, Japanese spec are a bit lighter, from memory.
Yes;
From $10,000AUD.

decoy · Post by **decoy** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:54 pm

chralie knows cos he can't wait to import one! u serious about importing one yeeeehah or still researching?

yeeeehah · Post by **yeeeehah** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:03 pm

yeah i'm still researching at the moment, but there not exactly in the featherweight category are they?

Are u absolutely sure they weigh that much?
The other thing i'm not sure about is the funny seat belt thing.

i'm tossing up between an st165 gt4 celica or the tough lookin widebody staz. The gt4 is 4wd and weighs less.

NXTIME · Post by **NXTIME** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:58 pm

Some sources say that the 165 weighs 1350, some say 1100kgs. But I do know that the widebody (US spec) weighs what I quoted above. (See http://www.starquestclub.com/index.pl?a ... oc=history for weights quoted).I do believe that the Jap-spec weighs a bit less due to less options like leather and those seat belts, etc.

I have researched widebody for quite a while and will eventually get one.

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:30 pm

ST165 GT4 is definately closer to the 1350kg mark. I imagine the limited rally editions were much lower (which Ive seen for sale around here a few times).

More importantly, the Starion's engine placement, and RWD setup, makes it quick through the turns. GT-Four's tend to just, not turn, and understeer. I do know people that have learned the art of GT-Four on tarmac, but its definately not pretty, and the tyres dont like it neither.

4WD is good for drag or rally, but Im not fond of it for much else. If you are going drag or rally, the EVO Lancer is lighter and performs better. But then I guess it comes down to availablity. ahh choices choices

jrod82 · Post by **jrod82** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:12 pm

Some don't have aircon so they are lighter.

yeeeehah · Post by **yeeeehah** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:52 am

Thanx for the info guys.
I'm looking for a street car with some days on the track. The st165 has parts available from the st162 and st185.

If i get the staz i'll have to up the power output because of the weight. I'm thinkin sr20. Also parts don't seem to as available.

Spidersweb, i think u r getting confused with the st185 which came in the limited rally editons, and apparently the standard 185 have more understeer.

NXtIME, this article says the weight is 2828 lbs
http://www.beyondthelimit.com.au/images/archives_95.jpg

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:56 am

Yeah with the rally editions I was talking about the ST205

But the understeer issue was related to the ST165, as my friend had one up north. Still fast, but Starion would be much quicker through the turns.

Chryzla · Post by **Chryzla** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:05 pm

ST185 is sexy :D

dirty sanchez · Post by **dirty sanchez** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:17 pm

I have a starion with an SR20DET and I'm in Canberra too. If you are going widebody then you will probably get a 2.6l, the big engine can be made to make good horsepower and so it's probably not worth the trouble of going with an SR20 conversion.

If you are going to do track work you are better off getting a standard narrowbody starion or a silvia/180sx. They are both better balanced and much stronger than the GT4. If you've got $10k to spend you could buy a wickedly quick starion for that.

Chris 83JA · Post by **Chris 83JA** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:26 pm

though a 2l engnie will be slightly lighter and will help with a better weight distribution

4g6beat · Post by **4g6beat** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:33 pm

I heard somewhere the gt4 celicas weighed over 150kgs cos of their heavy (but strong) strut system and heavy 4wd drivetrain. I may have been fed a load of bs but they were competing around the same time as vr4's and libertys which were around that weight.

Post by **Alspos** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:42 pm

A freind of mine has a Celica and has killed 2nd and third gears, standard engine. Apparently it's not an uncommon problem.

NXTIME · Post by **NXTIME** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:08 pm

yeeeehah wrote: NXTIME, this article says the weight is 2828 lbs
http://www.beyondthelimit.com.au/images/archives_95.jpg

There may be differences between the 1986-7 and 1988-89 cars' weight. Also, other options available might be the cause of the difference in weights. JA/B's weigh around the 2800 lb mark and the widebodies had more options and gizmo's so they definitely weigh more than that. Either way, you could put one on a diet and lose a few kilos ;)

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