Austarion

i went for a ride in a mates r32 gtst on sunday and he drifted it up the road for about 300m in 3rd and this car is fairly stock just a front mount exhaust and air cleaner and 11psi which made me think about turning my car into a drifter.I already have the lsd diff and if i go vr4 should have enough power to drift but i was wondering if anyone has a drift starion out there as im shure some one in japan would have years ago as i know they used to drift bluebirds 1600's and gazelles before skylines and silvias were around. If so it i want to know about suspensions setup and stuff so i can drift like my mates car

Oh no....

i would think it's just th e normal drift-mods, ultra stiff front end, lots of negative camber etc etc


would be nice to see one out there - something different!!!!

ohh for sure...can drift in almost anything... power isnt everything when it comes to drifting....i have seen a pajero drift at JMS in adelaide... i myself have drifted my mums tarago...lol...i bet it woulda looked funny...

if you wana learn how to drift, an how to turn your car into a drift machine buy the "drift bible". should be able to get it from most car shops...

Of course you can drift a starion..

the question is can YOU drift a starion. And more importantly - should you?
I'd suggest you do it in a proper controlled environment so you don't break anything. Here's my car at the police driver training skidpan.

gav wrote:i would think it's just th e normal drift-mods, ultra stiff front end, lots of negative camber etc etc

For drift, you pr. want to increase the stiffness of the rear more than the front othewise you will get bad understeer. Most drift cars go quite stiff all round to minimise roll, but proportionally increase the rear more that they do the front.

all the time.... yes, well :D not all the time..

Yes go very stiff in the back... watch the weight of the car though esp with a lsd, the rear snaps very quickly when boost comes on to 15-20 pounds and you will end up looking at where you've just been. Alot of it does come down to practice, knowing your car VERY well and money for tyres.

Paradoxx wrote:Alot of it does come down to practice, knowing your car VERY well and money for tyres.

time to chuck some stockies on the back :D

With an LSD i swear the staz is an easy car to drift, i haven't done a huge long drift, but it is soo easy to steer the car and keep the rears spinning predictably with the LSD. I am waiting till the next track open day and day off to go and practice.

Cheers
Ben

Camotec wrote:With an LSD i swear the staz is an easy car to drift, i haven't done a huge long drift, but it is soo easy to steer the car and keep the rears spinning predictably with the LSD. I am waiting till the next track open day and day off to go and practice.

I agree - an LSD is worth heaps when it comes to predictable drifting. I'm no drift expert, but I found an MR2 with LSD was more predictable than an AE86 without LSD, and if you're a drift fan and know the reputation of these cars, that's saying something.

weight was mentioned in a post before. what ist the better setup for drifting? Is it better to get the weight to the back or better to have it more to the centre? (for example a battery relocation)

Ultimately there is no best setup for everyone. everyone is different and so are setups.

MR2's like all rear engined rear drive cars (RR) has alot more weight over the rear wheels mean you can get the tail out easier but cause a harsher snap back and are easier to spin out. on the other side of the coin though a car with alot of weight over the front wheels (FR) can understeer more and you also require more weight transfer to get the rear to slide.

Now when you look at a Starion which has a 50/50 weight dist. this is an excellent setup for a beginner until they work out their driving style and they might find that they need less roll in the back to get the bum free etc. so they can take the action of say putting in a stiffer rear sway bar or the like etc.

Anyways, My 2 Cents.

Cheers
Ben

Can a Starion drift?

Does a one legged duck swim in circles?
Is the pope catholic?
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Does a fish swim?
Are 180sx's and Silvias everywhere?

'Nuff said

Camotec wrote:Now when you look at a Starion which has a 50/50 weight dist....

Umm, a Starion isn't 50/50. It's close, but not that close.

Boosted, you would need to move more than just a battery to make much of an impact on weight distribution. If you were talking about moving the engine and gearbox then yeah...

However as Cam said, the more weight at the back the more load the tyres need to handle, and so you have less grip when you load up that end. But you would be better off sticking in some &%^@ hard rear springs than worrying about distribution of weight.