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New Motor
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:44 am
by OLD FART
Well it's finally about to happen .Took the stroker bottom end up to Daves (Redzone )on Friday The jb goes there on Wednesday next
Specs etc block cleaned & bored to suit 86mm Wiseco pistons,Eagle rods,ACL Race Series bearings ,2.4 crank that has been crack tested ,linished & machined to clear the squirters & mildly knife edged & held in with ARP main studs ( the crank was perfect )
, balance shafts eliminated (weights machined off the oil pump side leaving both bearings in place for stability ) new water pump , timimg & fan belts Naturally everything was balanced to race specs by Jeff at J&L Machining (I actually watched him balance the crank )
My existing head that was ported ,polished ,ccd & has 3mm larger ex valves held in by double springs along with the Rallyart copy 35-70 cam will be held in place by ARP head studs over a Cometic h/gasket
It will be driving a recoed Cyroed gearbox via a Jim Berry raceclutch solid centre carbon button plate clamped by a 2300lb preasure plate
The old motor made 282 hp atw what do you think this one will make after it is run in & dynotuned ?????????
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:17 am
by Starion VR4
Rad, should be around 320-350HP I think, yr turbo may limit but as the RPM isn't going to be that high I think U will get away with it. :beer
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:00 am
by TommiCrazy
can You do some video about how is Yours starion drive? there is not much starion/conquest movies on web , i mean the powerfull one :)
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:12 pm
by OLD FART
Starion VR4 wrote:Rad, should be around 320-350HP I think, yr turbo may limit but as the RPM isn't going to be that high I think U will get away with it. :beer
You think the GT3O WITH A 76MM COMP WHEEL will be a limiting factor ????????
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:17 pm
by OLD FART
TommiCrazy wrote:can You do some video about how is Yours starion drive? there is not much starion/conquest movies on web , i mean the powerfull one :)
Tommi I will try to get some brave / silly person to come in the passenger seat to make a video for you
Any takers out there :) ????????????????????????
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:51 pm
by Starion VR4
OLD FART wrote:Starion VR4 wrote:Rad, should be around 320-350HP I think, yr turbo may limit but as the RPM isn't going to be that high I think U will get away with it. :beer
You think the GT3O WITH A 76MM COMP WHEEL will be a limiting factor ????????
WTF!!!!
when did this happen!!!!! :?
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:53 pm
by groupAralliart
turbo should be good for near 400 rwhp and I'll take the vid! :D
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:02 pm
by OLD FART
Starion VR4 wrote:OLD FART wrote:Starion VR4 wrote:Rad, should be around 320-350HP I think, yr turbo may limit but as the RPM isn't going to be that high I think U will get away with it. :beer
You think the GT3O WITH A 76MM COMP WHEEL will be a limiting factor ????????
WTF!!!!
when did this happen!!!!! :?
Thats what is/was on the old motor
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:13 pm
by Starion VR4
Oh ok... 330-378HP
:beer
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:23 pm
by coop1er
Well if you are using the same head, cam, turbo and exhaust etc at the same pressure then maximum power probably wont go up by much. I hope I'm wrong though :). Naturally power at lower revs will be up though.
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:46 pm
by scorpyy
coop1er wrote:Well if you are using the same head, cam, turbo and exhaust etc at the same pressure then maximum power probably wont go up by much. I hope I'm wrong though :). Naturally power at lower revs will be up though.
Correct. Though HP per cubic inch will be down so reliability will be better also.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:02 am
by OLD FART
scorpyy wrote:coop1er wrote:Well if you are using the same head, cam, turbo and exhaust etc at the same pressure then maximum power probably wont go up by much. I hope I'm wrong though :). Naturally power at lower revs will be up though.
Correct. Though HP per cubic inch will be down so reliability will be better also.
Well after it's been run in & tuned it will definately be interesting to see the result as we will be comparing"apples with apples". I don't think this kind of testing / development has been done before ( correct me if i'm wrong ) and I guess the final power will be goverened by the amount of air the head can flow .
thanks for all your replies & I ( someone who can ) will post the dyno sheet . I am hoping to get app 330 hp atw but with more punch out of corners
I have another cam that has been specially ground to suit the stroker so if we don't get enough grunt then it will be installed & retuned but didn't want to install it straight away as there would not have been a direct comparison of any improvment by simply ??? changeing the stroke / capacity to 2330cc
PS Car goes to Redzones tomorrow Dave hope you've polished up the spanners and are raring to go :D :beer
Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:46 am
by redzone
yep on track mate. shop looks like a bomb's gone off though still LOL
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:45 am
by OLD FART
redzone wrote:yep on track mate. shop looks like a bomb's gone off though still LOL
Dave you should have seen my desk when I was building !!!!! LOL And when my better half " tidied it up " I couldnt find a dammed thing :x so I went looking for a sign that said "a tidy desk is the sign of a sick mind " rofl
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:13 pm
by TOMSUN
Should be a weapon...
I reckon 310rwhp on 16psi.