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New Clutch

Post by Neon_Crossing »

Hey guys I think i might get a new clutch for my baby, seems to slip a bit in forth gear over 4 grand revs.
Anyone know a good clutch to get that will last the life of the car and some good mechanics in adelaide to fit it?
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Post by Entaran »

Such a clutch doesn't exist!

Clutches are serviceable items. They by design wear out. Effectively a long life fuse for your drivetrain.

A clutch could last years, or you can roast it in an afternoon. Depends what you're doing and how you drive.
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Entaran wrote:Such a clutch doesn't exist!

Clutches are serviceable items. They by design wear out. Effectively a long life fuse for your drivetrain.

A clutch could last years, or you can roast it in an afternoon. Depends what you're doing and how you drive.
Well said Enteran.

NC, Daikin have their Exedy Sports Tuff range. Great product and good after sales service (here in Melbourne at least). I've been abusing my HD clutch for at least 4 years on average twice per month at close to full revs sometimes and when I compete I'm on and off the clutch like a madman. Plus I drive it on the road to and from events, even interstate. It feels like a standard clutch to use and it's still going strong, my only quibble would be the plastic thrust bearing in the kit is shit, it gets noisy. I now use a standard one from a Starion/L300.
Find out who stocks them in your neck of the woods by ringing around some clutch joints. Or http://www.exedy.com.au/distributor.htm

But like Enteran said, in your case it really depends what you want from it.
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Post by Neon_Crossing »

I drive the starion maybe twice in a month, mostly granny driving and then maybe head up the hills once a month but I never hammer the clutch. But I figure its better to spend the extra cash and get a heavy duty one.
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You might want to check that your rear main seal isn't leaking, that'll make Mr Clutch slip or in the worst case even delaminate the sucker...

Been there, done that... :roll:
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The price difference between factory spec and heavy duty wasn't much in the scheme of things. Well, from mammory anyway... LOL
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Post by zippo »

i am in the process of replacing mine , got quotes both from exedy and extreme , extreme offer a cushioned button type , that is a little less heavy and claim it to be streetable , but as with all button cluthches they work one way -in- -out- , so you cant ride them .
i am going to setttle for the exedy heavy duty , 25% more clamp load than standard and at $165 complete lit , great value ,
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Post by decoy »

Got mine from Adel Clutch Services a few years back when i did the engine, extreme, 30% heavier, so far so good! Although i have a mate with an ae86 who claims to have gone through 2 of them... But i'm happy with it, dallas has had a drive, i think he liked it :)
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Post by Starion_Turbo »

Yeah deeks more clamp feels better

What's considered a stock clutch is utter crap I wanna feel the clutch working. Mine feels like it belongs on a granny's car not a sports car its way to soft, next time extra heavy duty or something with some real clamp.
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Post by Entaran »

You don't need REAL clamp unless you're turning 3 diffs or making some SERIOUS power. IE: AWD or 230+kw @ rear wheels.

You're just wearing your leg out, putting extra strain on the spigot bearing and thrust bearing and doing it for a dick size competition.

Size a clutch according to how you drive, not how hard you want to push your leg down. If it's so soft, attach a spring towards you so it's harder to push down. Course you'll end up with wankers leg (much like wankers arm!) one much larger than the other. Ask anyone who owns an ACT clutch.


I steer clear of off the shelf items and everything I use clutch wise is built to suit the way it's going to be used. Go ask a local clutch specialist (not just a brake and clutch shop) to make you up a clutch. You'll generally end up with components from all sorts of kits.
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Starion_Turbo wrote:Yeah deeks more clamp feels better

What's considered a stock clutch is utter crap I wanna feel the clutch working. Mine feels like it belongs on a granny's car not a sports car its way to soft, next time extra heavy duty or something with some real clamp.
You won't feel much difference at the pedal regardless of the clutch installed mostly because of the pedal spring.

As Enteran said, you can move the spring point to change how it feels.

Interestingly, you chose the Starion, setup from the factory with fairly light controls, steering, accelerator as well as clutch. There's a deliberate level of refinement.

You should perhaps be wrestling with an old holden, you know, M21 gearbox hanging off an old cast lump of 253 of 308 cubic inches, and with no power steering thrown in for full effect... :roll:
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