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Understeering

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:33 pm
by Junkers
Hey all

After a new engine and being able to corner at a decent speed, I'm finding I have some nasty understeer problems. Getting as bad as going in a straight line with the when trying to do a turn, feels like the front wheels are on ice.
What can I start off replacing to try and combat it?
I have 205 michelins on the front.

Cheers

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:25 pm
by Chris 83JA
As you come of the breaks (gently), give the steering wheel a flick when there's still weight over the front wheels (and thus not much weight on the rear wheels) :twisted:

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:56 am
by Cookiemonster
Simplest solution - You need to soften the front suspension and/or stiffen up the rear.

The first port of call would be to try a bit less pressure in the front tyres. See how much you can improve things with this free adjustment.

Second step would be mucking around with the sway bars. You could try removing the front bar and see what that does. Again, another free adjustment.

After that you're looking at shocks and spring rates.. which of course means $$$.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:08 am
by airbats801
I noticed after I tossed some coilovers on my car, lowered it a bit and got a bit more camber on my car, and also put a little neg in the back it seemed to turn in better.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:52 pm
by OLD FART
Advanced Driving lessons ?????? rofl rofl

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:07 pm
by TOMSUN
Take it to a steering/brake/suspemsion place and get them to give you a safety check or report...

Midas do something like that for about $29 sometimes...

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:56 pm
by SIR GSR
You're Staz must be a rare one...

I pushed mine hard up and down a mountain range every day...never understeered once...lots of oversteer and drifting action...

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:02 pm
by Chryzla
ive tried to get understeer... wont have a bar of it.. as for oversteer... oh yes baby...

maybe your front suspension is FUBAR...

as for mine its stiff as and still no understeer

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:30 am
by Junkers
Thanks for all your helps guys :beer

I had the cars shocks checked (not springs yet) and the guy who did the test said it felt really stiff but typical for what it is. I think it comes down to me now entering off-camber corners too early - too fast.

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:59 am
by S73R
i too have had issues with the staz's understeer... try ing to hit roundabouts at hi speed with 4 peoplz in the car a u will definately feel it..... but i love FF's which have a different driving style altogether.... hmmm i must get better at drifting....

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:56 pm
by OLD FART
Kiddies if u want 2 explore both your cars &your own limits please do it at the track & not on public roads :x
P/S if u do as i reccomend u will stand a better chance of becoming an old fart & not another statistic
PP/S The current statistics are that 1 in 4 new drivers under 25 will not b here in 10 years time as a result of a major motor crash

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:10 pm
by Junkers
I agree with you old fart. I don't really do it at all, I was just curious at the time :oops: Where did you get the statistic?

4 years on the road and no fines. As opposed to a mate with 2k of fines within a year...

Does anyone here do trackday racing in Christchurch?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:17 am
by OLD FART
The numbers are from Safe Drive Training who teach defensive & advanced driving tecniques as well &can train drivers for CAMS competion liscences

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:05 am
by WidebodyWoody
I hate street racing. I mean it is all fun and games, but it is way too dangerous. Imagine killing someone. You would feel guilty the rest of your life. Unless you are a scumbag.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:08 am
by TOMSUN
OLD FART wrote:PP/S The current statistics are that 1 in 4 new drivers under 25 will not b here in 10 years time as a result of a major motor crash
I don't believe this stat for car drivers... bike riders maybe...