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Has anyone bothered going the supercharger route with a Starion?
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No one???

Anyone even heard of a Supercharged Starion in existance?
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I suspect that with the smaller number of starions about compared to other cars plus the fact that they come out with a turbo attached has not left anybody wanting... yet... Have you a supercharger to play with?
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supercharging would cast a lto of mney just to get up to turbo level of performance.


and starion turbo is so small that its like haveing a blower
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Some number to think about...

A 2L with at 6800rpm with 15psi it will make 200kw (flywheel) or
A 2L with at 8000rpm with 23psi it will make 307kw (flywheel) :twisted:

And it not just about peak power... it will be making more usable power down low and right through the rev range...

A Eaton M90 would do it nicely... :D
I am tempted...
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Don't do it man :D Imma bitch slap u on saturday for thinking this :D
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Twin charge it. Best of both worlds ;)
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TOMSUN wrote:Some number to think about...

A 2L with at 6800rpm with 15psi it will make 200kw (flywheel) or
A 2L with at 8000rpm with 23psi it will make 307kw (flywheel) :twisted:

And it not just about peak power... it will be making more usable power down low and right through the rev range...

A Eaton M90 would do it nicely... :D
I am tempted...
yes
but you can get better power from a turbo.

the turbo will be faster, becasue of less parasitic drag.

also fuel consumption will be horrible
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would a 4g63 turn a supercharger :P
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I toyed with this idea too, a blower where the AC compressor sits, pumping some 3 psi at 1500 rpm would be nice . lots of down low torque, but methinks the top end would suffer abit, but traffic light drag racing would be interesting...
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I think the reason no one has gone the supercharged route is because the cost outweighs any benefits when considering they come out with a turbocharger standard. With the 4g63 being an undersquare engine you could argue that a supercharge would match the character of the engine.

I remember reading many years back a F1 team was testing using a supercharger (during the days of turbocharging). On a tight circuit that was laguna seca where the supercharger should have an advantage it was a few seconds slower than the turbo F1 car.
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TD05 wrote:I toyed with this idea too, a blower where the AC compressor sits, pumping some 3 psi at 1500 rpm would be nice . lots of down low torque, but methinks the top end would suffer abit....
That's where the turbo will be useful in a twincharger system ;)
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iXNAY wrote:would a 4g63 turn a supercharger :P
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iXNAY wrote:would a 4g63 turn a supercharger :P
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