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Fuel Pressure

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:28 pm
by BLOFLY
Quick question, I've got a 1.4:1 malpassi regulator which I'm going to use on a sonata setup. Should I remove the factory fuel pressure regulator from the end of the sonata fuel rail and just use the malpassi, or should I run them in series(easier) to control fuel pressure???

Fuel pressure

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:05 pm
by Starion VR4
Remove the original unit, the malpassi is a replacement unit.... :beer

Re: Fuel Pressure

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:38 pm
by mrb1
BLOFLY wrote:Quick question, I've got a 1.4:1 malpassi regulator which I'm going to use on a sonata setup. Should I remove the factory fuel pressure regulator from the end of the sonata fuel rail and just use the malpassi, or should I run them in series(easier) to control fuel pressure???
Why are you running the Malpassi regulator are your injectors too small?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:49 pm
by fr335tyl3r
What is the purpose of a malpassi type rising rate fuel regulator over a standard one?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:33 pm
by WIDEST_1
not much!! Std pressure reg's are the go.most efi cars need between 280~ 350Kpa fuel pressure. all std pressure regs are rising rate to compensate 4 pressure diffurences via the vac fitting to inlet manafold. They raise pressure 2 compensate for extra manafold presure. malpassi what evers are for people using injectors,pumps,regs ect that are not suited for each other.Each injector is designed to work with a specific fuel pressure range. I can't answer the ? because i don't know what tey are needed 4.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:04 pm
by SpidersWeb
fr335tyl3r wrote:What is the purpose of a malpassi type rising rate fuel regulator over a standard one?
1. Higher fuel pressure allows the injectors to flow more without replacing them. Of course a fuel toy like an Apexi S-AFC would be needed, or an aftermarket computer.

2. if you upgrade your fuel pump too far beyond factory spec, you also want a stronger fuel pressure regulator.

Rising rate - all FPRs on turbo cars are rising rate. 1psi extra fuel pressure, for every 1psi of boost is normally the go, known as 1:1 rising rate. However another common one is the 1.7:1, which adds more fuel pressure per pound of boost, which is beneficial if your injectors really suck, but most car tuners prefer 1:1 (as its easier for them to work with) and for you just to buy decent injectors (assuming you are running an aftermarket ECU).

Well thats what I gathered. I tend to research weird topics sometimes, and I did a bit of reading on this one, and thats what I learned.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:07 pm
by scum
your all missing the point. they LOOK cool!

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:16 pm
by BLOFLY
I was going to use the sonata injectors to get it up and running but I decided to buy some VR4 injectors instead.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:59 pm
by Junkers
I would've thought the sonata injectors would be a bit to small anyway, mayaswell get something decent if your spending up on mpi.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:18 pm
by Cookiemonster
Nothing wrong with using the standard Sonata FPR. It'll work fine.

Don't use the Sonata injectors though. Way too small.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:05 pm
by BLOFLY
Multipoint up and running now, using a modded Sonata manifold, VR4 injectors, VN throttlebody, Haltech F9 (fuel only), custom wiring, etc. etc. Took the whole weekend to install plus about 6 weeks previous to do all the fabrication/wiring and chase up every other part needed. Now it starts and idles great and revs up much more freely with heaps crisper response.:D :D :D Big thanks to local Super Cheap, and Bottleshop for making the job much easier :beer as well as the Austarion.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:45 am
by Fuel
Cookiemonster wrote:Nothing wrong with using the standard Sonata FPR. It'll work fine.
Have you tested the fuel pressure on boost using this FPR or when you were using the L300 FPR?

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:58 am
by TOMSUN
I have the standard Sonata FPR. Running 550cc RX7 injectors

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:38 pm
by Fuel
TOMSUN wrote:I have the standard Sonata FPR. Running 550cc RX7 injectors
But your starion doesn't run, so that doesnt mean much.

I am using a standard L300 FPR, but i suspect it is not rising the fuel pressure above 15psi boost...

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:42 pm
by TOMSUN
Good point... But I don't think I'll be needing to go to a rising rate FPR with the bigger injectors.