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wheel alignment

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:53 am
by androoz
ive just put some 2nd 16" rims on my car.. but when they were trying to do a full alignment, they told me that i cant adjust the rear, or the front right..

firstly they said the rear only has adjustable cams (or something like that).. and he showed me that the front could only be aligned on the left wheel..

after they so called aligned it to the best of thier abilities, the car pulls to the right, even worst than it used to.. which was only a little to the left..

they also mentioned something about there being a straight bolt though the back.. said it needs an adjustable bolt.. does this guy know what his talking about?

i went to the tyrefactory in sunshine to do this.. any more info would help.. has anyone else had problems with places that dont know how to align the starion? is there something out of the normal with aligning the starion?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:24 am
by WANTSOM
Either there is a mechanical issue with your front end preventing them from doing the alignment or the guys you went to are dickheads.

The fronts are fully adjustable both sides but from memory you have to remove either the tie rod bolt or pitman arm bolt to get the full range of adjustment on the right front, then re-tighten the bolts and put new split pits in.

The rears are adjustable for camber and a "little' toe. the cam wheel for the rear camber is on the inner most lower suspension pick up (near the diff) if you look closely enough.

Others will have more detailed info for you I'm sure but there IS a fair bit of adjustment in the Starion suspension - front and rear. Take the car to somewhere that knows more than how to change a flat tyre.

Re: wheel alignment

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:13 pm
by Cookiemonster
androoz wrote:ive just put some 2nd 16" rims on my car.. but when they were trying to do a full alignment, they told me that i cant adjust the rear, or the front right..

.. does this guy know what his talking about?
NO! Take it someplace else. And get your money back from that d1ckhead.

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:26 pm
by androoz
im so upset.. the guy adjusted only the front left, and now the car runs so terrible.. the handling has reduced to a bomb.. :x

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:12 am
by WANTSOM
you knowwhat to do now though.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:27 pm
by merlin
take it to someone who is willing to actually work for their pay! :x

Greg is right, the right side front does not have an adjustment tube, so it has to be disconnected to actually change its length.
The procedure is to center the steering wheel (and it may NOT be in the center of its rotational travel), set the right side toe adjustment, set the left side toe adjustment.

The factory toe setting is for a little toe in (i forget how much).
Most of us who go to the track run something like zero to 2mm toe out.

And before all this is done, get them to set the front castor (as much as can possible for the same amount both sides, eg 4 to 6 degrees).

The factory rear toe setting is a good place to start, but can be improved upon, depending on your particular setup (springs/lowering/shocks/tyres etc).

Dont go to anyone who does not have a '4 HEAD' allignment machine, and always get and keep a copy of the results, before and after!!!
That way you can build up a picture of what works on your staz.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:17 pm
by androoz
thanks heaps guys.. ill have to get it redone sometime soon.. but i might have to pass on what u guys have told me to the guys doing the alignment..

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:22 pm
by Alspos
Get it done REAL soon, or kiss your front tyres goodbye.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:45 pm
by flav
You know who to see......... :D

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:09 am
by decoy
ghostbusters!!!

but yeh, get it done asap.

camber adjustment

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:03 am
by Icestar
but how do you adjust the camber guys?

I just put in new struts in my car ( 87 ic 2.0 narrowbody) but I think the struts are from a 2.6 w/b, arent the struts supposed to be the same? The car now has negative camber :( :roll:

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:50 pm
by flav
you are funny....if u have neg. i would say they arent the same. Camber can be adjusted by offset hat rotation or camber pins in the control arm.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:26 pm
by Icestar
LOL sorry, of course I meant POSITIVE camber ;)

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:11 am
by flav
Is it cold there? I meant both...you need to dial out neg to get pos..and dial out pos to get neg..or straight up as well.

cold???

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:08 am
by Icestar
well dude, what you have in the winter is what we have in the summer, its around 20°c here now :wink: but we have alot diffrent climate here so I guess you wouldnt get too cold :naughty

havent you seen the Top gear show where they visit Iceland wit Audi TT, 350Z and the Crossfire?

later guys