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anti power stering

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:50 am
by scum
why does my car have really heavy steering? at 100kmh the wheel is heaver than my hilux ute in a carpark. also I can go around a corner, let go of the wheel and it will continue to turn without self-cantering. do I just need to bleed it?

Re: anti power stering

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:08 am
by galagaza
scum wrote:why does my car have really heavy steering? at 100kmh the wheel is heaver than my hilux ute in a carpark. also I can go around a corner, let go of the wheel and it will continue to turn without self-cantering. do I just need to bleed it?

Sounds weird, could be some valve or something in the powersteering that is broken, or possibly a terrible wheel alignment for some reason...

Are there any sounds? Is there enough fluid on it?

My best guess is the P.S box valves.

Re: anti power stering

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:30 pm
by scum
galagaza wrote:
scum wrote: self-cantering.
stupid spell check :x


Are there any sounds? Is there enough fluid on it?


no, no noises or anything, and the fluid level is fine.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:34 pm
by WANTSOM
Check the steering/suspension components. Could be something binding up there. Idler arms, ball joints that sort of thing

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:18 pm
by SpidersWeb
Mine started doing that after I put the wrong fluid in it. But it was really hard to turn.

So possibly the fluid or the pump isn't doing its job properly.

When I had air in the system, it was easier to turn the wheel, but I had to turn it further. Having car wash in there made it extremely hard to turn the wheel full stop.

When driving a towed Starion (no power steer) its the same (really hard to turn but you could actually turn ok).

Contaminated fluid provided a much harder steering system than none at all. Given your previous posts about oil, perhaps this is just another mystery fluid contamination? Just an idea anywho

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:24 pm
by StarionPWR
I dont have power steering in my starion, drives real nice. Just a bit heavy when parking.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:54 pm
by scum
maybe the 'scum automatic transmission fix' is the right approach? (rip it out, throw it in the dirt, kick and yell at it)

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:09 pm
by toysrus
but that'll only make you feel better rather then fix it and THEN feel better :D

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:20 pm
by scum
nonsense.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:31 am
by Will
What's the wheel alignment like? Excessive toe in will make the car not self centre, but doesn't explain the heavy steering. Worth eliminating just in case.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:03 pm
by Powerslave
Remember , these are 'speed compensated' power steering boxes , and has less hydraulic pressure anywhere above 1500rpm. sounds like the nut on the steer box is in too tight , a classic sign of loss of 'return to centre'. Try lbacking it off a bit (1/4 turn) at a time , then take it for a drive. It's exactly the opposite of play in the steering covered elsewhere in another thread.

:beer

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:48 am
by scum
cheers, will smack it with a hammer when i pull the engine out.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:17 am
by Junkers
StarionPWR wrote:I dont have power steering in my starion, drives real nice. Just a bit heavy when parking.
I used to have a staz with no power steering, I prefered it, saves this kinda trouble.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:33 pm
by logik
i remember hearing one of the sigma non-power assisted racks fits fine in the starion.. anyone got ideas?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:35 pm
by SpidersWeb
logik wrote:i remember hearing one of the sigma non-power assisted racks fits fine in the starion.. anyone got ideas?
Doubt that. I could be wrong. But Starions use a steering box not a rack because there isn't any room for a rack.