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Starter Motor

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:28 pm
by fil
Ah the cars done it again, payed of my fines gone to start and the starter motor has gone :(
So what staters are interchangable (if any) or does anyone have a spare starter motor that they want to sell ?
Thanks
Peter

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:35 am
by JPC
Previously, I've just gone to an auto electrician and said 'gimme one of these'. 10 minutes later, I have a new one fitted - can't remember what it cost, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:01 am
by StarionBoy
auto barn said $160 for a new one (maybe it was a reconditioned one, i cant remember..) and surprise surprise it has to be ordered in :D

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:35 am
by hcca
Sigma starter motor should fit. Plenty available at your local wreckers for around $30.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:00 pm
by fil
Sweet :D
Thanks Guys
Might go the sigma option for the time being

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:41 am
by 1JZGTE
let us know how u go

hey that rhymed :roll:

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:37 am
by scum
u sure its broke?
old wiring in almost any car can stop the solenoid from working. i *think* it needs 7amps just to trigger the solenoid and switch the electric motor on. have you tried putting a wire straight from the '+' battery terminal to the trigger on the back of the starter? my cordia did this after it sat for 6 months or so. i (and most people i think) just rig up a relay and use the old starter wire to trigger that.


my 2 cents....

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:35 pm
by fil
That sounds more like the problem, so do i just do away with the solinoid and go from the relay? are the wires thick enough ?

starter motor

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:27 pm
by Kano
i got one last week for my starion, im in adelaide got it brand new at motor traders in lonsdale for $127.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:36 pm
by scum
anyone got a diagram?

you take +12v from the battery and run that to the switched input of the relay, ground to ground and the old starter wire to the trigger then the output of the relay goes to the trigger on the back of the starter. make sense? :roll:

test it first. on the back of the starter there is *i think* only one small wire. the other is a big thick one. remove the little one and put +12v from the battery on to the STARTER MOTER SIDE with a multimeter lead or something. if it cranks over then the relay will sort you out. if not then the prob is in the starter.

loud click = solenoid works but contacts for motor are worn / dirty
nothing at all = tis broke / bad earth
pissweak click = pissweak starter motor / earth
zzzZZZT CRACK! = electrical fire
pissweak crank = pissweak battery / lead / dirty terminals
healthy cranking noise = completely stuffed
whirring noise = thats the washing machine ya knob. the car is in the shed.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:20 pm
by 1JZGTE
rofl

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:38 pm
by Chryzla
err right...

you can test a startermotor with a screwdriver... or a spanner if you are as unfortunte as me :(

I dropped a spanner on the startermotor once when working on the car (yes i know should always disconnect the battery first (BITE ME!!)) hit just in the right spot for it to crank jolted the car forward and all (left it in gear) i know my starter works fine :P

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:53 pm
by scum
this is why i use wire. even if it welds itself to the terminal i can still rip it in half.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:36 am
by Chryzla
yeah well, its a lesson well learned

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:27 am
by merlin
some (not all) early magna starters will fit (just).
they are a reduction gear type, and work very well.
if scums notes indicate its stuffed (good notes there scum, btw),
take the old ond along to a wrecker with your trusty pair of calipers, and find a replacement.