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Power ouput question

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:31 pm
by Ryan
Hello everyone for the first time.

I have recently become the proud owner of a 1983 Starion. I have been modifying it the past few months and I was wondering what sort of RWkW's I should be getting? Here are a list of the mods I have:

Pod filter
Hi-Flowed recondtioned turbo running 11psi
MOTEC computer
2 1/2 inch turbo back exhaust
Running on 98 RON fuel

I have recently had the timing and fuel maps done on a dyno by someone experienced with MOTEC's and I got 70kW at the rear wheels. The car goes well but I was expecting a fair amount more power. What do you guys think? Is there something wrong with my car?

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:21 pm
by fil
ok first things first 70kw at the wheels is diffrent to 70kw at the fly
What type of motec are u running ie spark and fuel analouge or digital and is it tuned rite
remeber these cars are over 20 years old
70kws is a good result in my mind.
Mind you NSW has just lost origin 2 so im quite pissed
:beer

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:36 pm
by toysrus
I'ld say maybe have a compression test done to see if your maybe due for a rebuild.

Also that pod filter just doesn't happen to be sucking in hot engine bay temp air right :shock:

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:16 pm
by CussCuss
yeah that is a bit low for a motec and boost, should be getting more than that

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:34 am
by decoy
yeh id definately say your pretty low on kw there. you should be getting at least 90 with those mods, in my experience. at what rpm did it make the power? is it a tc05 or 06?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:40 am
by SIRIUS
yeah seems very low...but, remember the big discussion we had about different dynos, producing very different figures...only way to find out for sure if the mods you made were worth it is by taking it down the 1/4 mile...

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:18 pm
by Paradoxx
Even without a cooler i would expect more power than that... Who did you get to tune your car? I would recommend someone in Carousel (or near carousel) who tuned my car very well - Jordan Rovertech (JRT) look them up (ask for the guy who does the dyno tuning). They do MOTECs and Haltechs etc, and have a good dyno which bolts on to your hubs giving fairly accurate readings. If you get a cooler it will be even better :)

Steve

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:09 pm
by Ryan
its a TC06 turbo. Timing is not original unit but is electronic. I have a feeling my intake temp is high and the tuner said he detuned the car when the intake temp rose above 110deg (will prob install an intercooler soon) Is it ok to assume my compression is ok if i'm not burning oil?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:19 pm
by mrb1
Yes fit an intercooler and run min 12psi you should notice a BIG increase in grunt.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:03 pm
by Shannon
I had the following mods to my last starion,

EMS
K&N filter
VR4 front mount
Mulitpoint manifold
Hi flowed TCO6

I have the dyno sheets at home, it was either 125 or 135 kw at the rear wheel.

h

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:10 pm
by mr mark
do you have std injection or multipoint?

Re: h

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:07 pm
by toysrus
mr mark wrote:do you have std injection or multipoint?
OMG, Multipoint manifold = .............. :D

But yes, 70Kw and I'ld say something is wrong on the Motec side aswell. Basically Motec's take alot longer than the average Microtech to tune the engine to it's max output so don't expect a 2 hour tune to do much :wink:

Re: h

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:12 am
by Chris 83JA
toysrus wrote:
mr mark wrote:do you have std injection or multipoint?
OMG, Multipoint manifold = .............. :D
I think mark was asking Ryan, not Shannon

its ok

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:14 pm
by mr mark
iwas only asken a question. i was just thinken thats the only thing he hasnt done maybe?? i dont know

lol

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:10 pm
by StarionBoy
yeah as chris said marks was asking Ryan (who started this topic) not Shannon.. rofl

why didnt any one else think of that?? lol.. you should all be ashamed of yourselves, a question about starions and not one of the starion guys could work it out.. :roll: