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4G63 wideblock + RX7 series 4 gearbox

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:28 pm
by avandull
And so it begins.

Rad found me the correct Bellhousing

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Direct Clutch Services found me a gearbox

The Starion gearbox, compared with the RX7 gearbox
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Off with the RX7 Bellhousing.
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On with the B2600 bell housing
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Stay tuned for the next installment

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:40 pm
by OLD FART
Will need to shorten the extension housing to get the shifter in the same position .
Looking forward to your feedback on say speeds in gears per 1000rpms compared to the Staz box and shift feel/quality as it is supposed to be way better and smoother
PS for those who don't know the imput shaft extends within a mm or so past the bell as the KM132 :D

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:08 pm
by JA83
if you need anything machining mate let me know.. dad has a lathe and mill at home. Also what are you doing with the old box?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:23 pm
by Mick
nice al let me know if you want a hand ay

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:39 pm
by enthuzed
Rad, if you've had no grief from your box why are you going to swap it?
I noticed the box used for the comparison is not the one in your car with the tuff pan on it.
Or are you getting prepared for that fateful day?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:38 pm
by avandull
Mick,JA83 Thanks for the offers of help, I will sing out.
Rad, I will make some speed measurements

I have had a run of broken gearboxes, That it another broken one.

Next I have to get a B2600 slave cylinder, move the shifter, make a cross-member and make a new tail shaft.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:41 am
by OLD FART
enthuzed wrote:Rad, if you've had no grief from your box why are you going to swap it?
I noticed the box used for the comparison is not the one in your car with the tuff pan on it.
Or are you getting prepared for that fateful day?
I want to be prepared for what most seem to think is inevetable seeing my tc is built for torque and is on a very safe tune and when 320+ HP & 585 nm ATW starts to feel slow a new tune , a 63 turbine and boost increase will be on the cards :D
PS have had the bell for some time and they are now like hens teeth or rocking horse poo. Allan em'd all over the country and couldn't find one and my supplier has my permanent order for any that he comes across

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:56 pm
by kushman
hey could some one just confirm that the bell housing is from a late 88-92 ish? mazda b2600 4cylinder 2.6 rwd? i take it the 4wd type wont fit?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:48 pm
by MainstreaM
kushman wrote:hey could some one just confirm that the bell housing is from a late 88-92 ish? mazda b2600 4cylinder 2.6 rwd? i take it the 4wd type wont fit?
Here in the states, years were 87-88 only with carburetor. 89 and above used a Mazda designed fuel injected 2.6 liter engine. The Mitsu G54B used in the trucks was more commonly found in the 4wd due to the higher torque than Mazda's 2.0 used in 2wd. Luckily Mazda knew they had a bullet proof trans and used the same TII R series transmission in it's 4WD trucks with different gearing of course.

So what you should look for:
87-88 +/- year truck with Mitsu G54B engine (carby)

Kane

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:42 am
by kushman
thanks for the reply.. so the 4wd has the same bell housing?

i have also seen that the ford coriour in NZ has the same 4g54 in both 2 and 4 wheel drive , mid 80s to mid 90s . be keen to know what bell housings can be used for this conversion

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:25 am
by redzone
Hey Alan, did u get a clutch fork with the B2600 bell? i have a brand new one here if needed. Modding the shifter is pretty easy, i bet there are easy how to's on the ausrotary site as they do it when fitting this box to early mazda's.

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:47 pm
by avandull
I got the clutch fork with the RX7 box. I believe they are the same as the B2600 one. I am still debating whether to move the shifter, I think 3 inches further back would be good in conjunction with the different angle of the of the RX7 shifter.

This slave cylinder is the wrong one. The bleeder is on the wrong side.

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This is the correct one, with part number.
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This is the B2600 slave cylinder(the new one) compared to the RX7 slave cylinder.
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:15 am
by redzone
And the best part is, the starion line goes straight into it :)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:09 pm
by enthuzed
What what year/designation of Australian models would the bellhousing and clutch fork and slave come from?
I'd imagine Ford Courier stuff would probably work too.

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:01 pm
by OLD FART
enthuzed wrote:What what year/designation of Australian models would the bellhousing and clutch fork and slave come from?
I'd imagine Ford Courier stuff would probably work too.
Only if it had a 4g54 motor