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Starion clutch problem.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:59 pm
by leoca
I am currently doing a conversion for my lancer .I have bought a 2.6 from a jdm starion from Steve Ralliart and now the engine is running I have found I have no clutch and cannot get it into a gear.
It looks like the yoke that pushes the throwout bearing to the front of the car is jammed.?
The slave seems fine ...it is off I tested it
You cannot push the rod to the rear (by using your leg!)>jammed?

I was wondering if I have to pull the box off to fix it or whether I can get in to fix it through that hole with the rubber seal.

Any advice appreciated :wink:

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:47 am
by enthuzed
How much travel do you have and whats the length of the pushrod?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:50 am
by Entaran
What gearbox?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:05 am
by leoca
enthuzed wrote:How much travel do you have and whats the length of the pushrod?
You have about 2 inch protruding, you can't push it back at all...but it will move forward some.

Its a KM132 gearbox...the one that comes stock with the widebodys

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:07 am
by leoca
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:16 am
by BLOFLY
I know on mine(4g63) I have carefully removed the rubber boot and used a torch to have a quick inspection. The throwout arm that comes through that boot runs on a small ball pivot, can come off, or the arm could be broken, bent? worth a 5min check

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:51 am
by MrBishi
It may be the mis-matched master cylinder having too much capacity causing the slave to over-extend and cause problems. Pull the rubber boot off and take a look.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:16 pm
by leoca
I removed the rubber seal and apart from a fair bit of fibrous material in clumps in there there wasn't a lot to see.
The throwout bearing looks to be hardup against the pressure plate I don't know.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:19 pm
by leoca
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:51 am
by enthuzed
leoca wrote:I removed the rubber seal and apart from a fair bit of fibrous material in clumps in there there wasn't a lot to see.
The throwout bearing looks to be hardup against the pressure plate I don't know.
Based on both this comment and the photo, you'll be up for a new clutch soon. Looks like your rear main seal is leaking and if you have fibrous material then your clutch might be starting to delaminate.
Mine was like this and then when I got the clutch nice and hot the clutch material totally went to shit with stuff everywhere.
If you take the box out (gotta fix the oil leak) then you might find your answer to your problem too...

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:00 pm
by leoca
enthuzed wrote:
leoca wrote:I removed the rubber seal and apart from a fair bit of fibrous material in clumps in there there wasn't a lot to see.
The throwout bearing looks to be hardup against the pressure plate I don't know.
Based on both this comment and the photo, you'll be up for a new clutch soon. Looks like your rear main seal is leaking and if you have fibrous material then your clutch might be starting to delaminate.
Mine was like this and then when I got the clutch nice and hot the clutch material totally went to shit with stuff everywhere.
If you take the box out (gotta fix the oil leak) then you might find your answer to your problem too...
you were spot on the throwout bearing was super sticky on the input shaft and the cluch was disintergrating and worn out.
The flywheel weighs 9.7KG...do you think it is lightened?(widebody 2.6 motor).

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:08 pm
by enthuzed
leoca wrote:
enthuzed wrote:
leoca wrote:I removed the rubber seal and apart from a fair bit of fibrous material in clumps in there there wasn't a lot to see.
The throwout bearing looks to be hardup against the pressure plate I don't know.
Based on both this comment and the photo, you'll be up for a new clutch soon. Looks like your rear main seal is leaking and if you have fibrous material then your clutch might be starting to delaminate.
Mine was like this and then when I got the clutch nice and hot the clutch material totally went to shit with stuff everywhere.
If you take the box out (gotta fix the oil leak) then you might find your answer to your problem too...
you were spot on the throwout bearing was super sticky on the input shaft and the cluch was disintergrating and worn out.
Thanks Leoca. It's good when others can benefit from your experience. It pissed me off at the time and I drove 3 hours back to Melbourne without a clutch when mine went.
leoca wrote: The flywheel weighs 9.7KG...do you think it is lightened?(widebody 2.6 motor).
Nope. The 2.0 ones are approx 8.5kgs.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:57 pm
by quest
heavy stock 2.6 flywheel weigh close to 16kg, believe it or not.
'lightened' to ~9.7kg is a very common mod in the US

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:29 pm
by enthuzed
Wow, that's bullshit heavy!

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:23 am
by quest