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E85

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 am
by 4gpwr
I have been playing with E85 fuel over the last few weeks with some very impressive results .

The fuel was $1.00 a liter

110 octane .

Re: E85

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:45 am
by OLD FART
4gpwr wrote:I have been playing with E85 fuel over the last few weeks with some very impressive results .

The fuel was $1.00 a liter

105 octane .
ZOOM caried out testing with fuel with ethanol in it ( cant remember the percentage )and got a good improvment after tuning as it required more fuel to get the af ratios right .They did b4 & after tests

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:58 pm
by thrash
what would you have to change to be able to use ethanol based fuel in a starion? can you use the E10 that's sold at pumps these days?

I don't know much (anything) about it, but i've been told that you need different hoses, as ethanol will corrode normal rubber hoses..?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:59 pm
by WANTSOM
I read the same ZOOM article as Oldie - E85 is a 'cooler' fuel and thus increases the detonation threshold hence allows you to run more ignition advance. The jist iof it all is you need to increase your fuel flow by anywhere between 25 and 30% so pump, lines and injectors all need to be capable of handling that extra flow. Do that and there is some impressive scope for tuning. I am looking into it for the track car. Gotta be better than 98 Premium and hard to get 100 octane and the no longer available Vplus racing.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:39 am
by Alspos
E85 is also corrosive and eats rubber fuel lines over time. May not be an issue with newer cars but on ours it could be a concern. Also may eat your fuel pump innards out.

But after reading the article in Zoom I was fairly impressed. They got great gains....but use a fair amount more fuel. Great for the track!

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:16 pm
by Vulpes
where would you buy E85 fuel. You cant get it in NSW.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:51 pm
by TOMSUN
Vulpes wrote:where would you buy E85 fuel. You cant get it in NSW.
From the SAAB website

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E85 available now.

Saab introduced BioPower cars to Australia in 2006. There are limited number of distributors currently in Australia. Uptake of E85 ethanol requires substantial public support to thrive - from the government, from industry and, of course, from you.

You can currently buy E85 ethanol in Australia from the following distributors:

NSW
- 127 Victoria Rd, ROZELLE
- 215 Kinghorne St, NOWRA
- 251 Princes Hwy, ALBION PARK
- 2 Rawson Rd, SOUTH GRANVILLE
- 663 Warringah Rd, FORESTVILLE

VICTORIA
- 160 Old Geelong Rd, HOPPERS CROSSING

e85

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:43 pm
by 4gpwr

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:53 pm
by Vulpes
by the time i drove to any of those id have to fill up again. thanks though.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:28 am
by panda
98 Octane Premium ULP has a limited shelf life. Does E85 suffer the same problem ? Before any event, I drain all the old fuel, & put it in my wifes car, then fill my car with fresh new fuel. You can feel the difference.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:53 pm
by turbosigma
251 Princes Hwy, ALBION PARK - passed by today - yes they have it.

Now for a dual maps - 98 and E85 tune