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evo4+ motor into starion

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:49 pm
by thrash
For those of you who follow drifting (i don't really.. looks like fun.. but i find the scoring method a bit silly and too similar to feminine sports like ballet and gymnastics..), you will most likely know about the Team Orange Evo IX that has been converted to have a north-south mounted late model 4g63..

So I'm thinking.. if it's been done in an evo, what's to stop people from doing it in a staz more frequently? If my memory serves me, and most of the time it doesn't, one of the major dilemmas for this was actually finding a rwd gearbox that would fit.. and I haven't been successful in finding info on the gearbox used in the Team Orange car.. yet..

So.... someone with connections in Japan could possibly coax JUN auto into perhaps making some money off starion owners by making a kit from their R&D on that Evo for this kind of project? :D

I know I'm a dreamer.. always have been.. always will be.. but this doesn't seem like it's that far fetched a possibility to me..

What are your thoughts guys?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:28 am
by OLD FART
WITHOUT DREAMERS WHERE WOULD WE BE ?????????????

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:29 am
by FST4RD
From memory it's an SR20DET 5 speed with a custom gearset, I remember reading about it. Although I'll try and find the article, the motor was set so far back into the fire wall as well.

Re: evo4+ motor into starion

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:33 am
by JD_Stazza_Brendan
thrash wrote:So I'm thinking.. if it's been done in an evo, what's to stop people from doing it in a staz more frequently?
Money

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:39 am
by MrBishi
Anything is possible.
Most sane people baulk at the idea of spending cubic $$ on a relatively unpopular, 80s styled hatchback.

Puchasing an evo 4+ motor, adapting to a strong gearbox of choice, making engine mounts, modifying/fabricating manifolds, re-routing exhaust (this just for starters) all adds up to serious dollars even if you can do all the work yourself. Are you willing to spend it on a car you paid $5000(?) for?

Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those not-so-sane people that has little hesitation in spending dollars on my nugget, & I'd love to see more crazy conversions. These are the facts as to why it does not happen more often.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:41 am
by FST4RD


I found this... this is the car your talking about early on....
It has a GTR rear diff and a hollinger box which I'm sure reading it was from a SR20 adapted to fit.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:35 pm
by S0LJAH
FST4RD wrote:

I found this... this is the car your talking about early on....
It has a GTR rear diff and a hollinger box which I'm sure reading it was from a SR20 adapted to fit.
yea thats the story with the gbox as far as im aware

gbox worth more than a staz LOL

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:04 pm
by thrash
that's why i mentioned JUN making a kit would be nice.. i don't think it would cost them too much to come up with a kit since a lot of the R&D is already completed.. they can just offer it up and if there is interest, they make one when people put down money :beer

someone with connections just need to coax them into doing it.. :D

And since when do SR20s have hollingers behind them? :shock:
Anyway, maybe not a hollinger, since that sort of strength isn't needed for the street.. i'm sure they could do it for a cheaper gearbox too without too much hassle..

a 'kit' would make things cheaper, despite it still costing a fair bit..

I believe Neil Philpott's car in the UK runs a late model evo motor.. if we get more nutjob cars like that one.. the starion's value might rise just as the ae86 did.. again.. dreaming here.. i know it will never rise haha..

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:25 pm
by FST4RD
thrash wrote: And since when do SR20s have hollingers behind them? :shock:
Anyway, maybe not a hollinger, since that sort of strength isn't needed for the street.. i'm sure they could do it for a cheaper gearbox too without too much hassle..
The Team Orange Evo is a proper competing D1 car putting out some big HP, thats why they are using a Hollinger. It's specifically built for a SR20 since they don't make an off the shelf item for the 4G63 and adapted to fit.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:44 pm
by RiceThief
It would easier to use a evo 1-3 engine, saves custom engine mounts, re-routing the exhaust.

I believe neil pilpott used only the head from a evo 4+ head not the block.

evo rwd

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:10 pm
by 4gpwr
To make a late 4g rwd kit would not be that hard , what ever gearbox , you fit behind it , if you are willing to make a investment in time , money , and research you could pretty much build the whole kit in your local industrial area .
If I was to take on the job , I would break it down to , adapter plates for gear box ect , manifolding , mountings , then cooling system which would have a few different schools of thought .
The quality of the cooling system conversion would separate it from other shit that people do .
I reckon my mates and I are going to come up with a killer cooling system conversion on my VR4 head starion block motor , I will be able to replicate it after I develop mine , Got a few good ideas , like no welding on the cylinder head and relocating the water outlets , still have a heater . And a air water separator . With no long radiator and heater hoses .

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:31 pm
by Station
RiceThief wrote:It would easier to use a evo 1-3 engine, saves custom engine mounts, re-routing the exhaust.

I believe neil pilpott used only the head from a evo 4+ head not the block.
Yes, just the head. He even used the 8v for years, and the 16v is a relatively recent upgrade.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:58 am
by dirtygalant
If he used an Evo4+ head then the exhaust would now be on the passenger's side.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:34 am
by RiceThief
dirtygalant wrote:If he used an Evo4+ head then the exhaust would now be on the passenger's side.
Yep :D

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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:43 am
by panda
Does anyone know what sort of coil-pack that is on the firewall ?
I'm looking for something similar.