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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:31 am
by FST4RD
Yeah I was always led to believe that 100% antifreeze helps cooling quite a bit...
It did when I turboed my civic with the factory radiator :D

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:49 am
by OLD FART
Are you sure the radiator is working properly & have you run a cleaner thru the motor to clean any gunk out of it ?? suggest you take it to a radiator repair shop and have the end tanks removed and the core roded and then use Water Wetter when you refill it

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:36 am
by TOMSUN
redzone wrote:
TOMSUN wrote:I have head that if you run 100% water you will have the best cooling capacity. Anti freeze retards the ability to cool.

So run 100% water when doing burn out comps, or what ever your doing then put your coolant back in for street etc.
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only if you're in europe, over here its anti freeze/anti boil, it raises the boiling point...
Wel that was what I thought, until I got my news letter from the ARDC once. And how there was a debate over banning anti freeze for certain circuit races because when it spills on the track,
1. It is more slippry than water and
2. It doen't tend to evaporate.

In the artical also when on to say that water is better than coolant in the ability to conduct and dissipate heat and hence the ability to cool.

Coolant is better for
1. Cold climates (anti freeze)
2. Hot climates (Anti boil)
3. Engine service life (Corrosion inhibitor)

S0LJAH, doesn't seehave a problem with it boiling. If he can shed more heat before it gets to the rev/boost cut setting the system won't overload and will be more efficient at getting rid of the heat with water...

Besides it's a cost free exercise (just keep you coolant in a container and fill it up with 100% water, inc. overflow)

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:43 pm
by S0LJAH
OLD FART wrote:Are you sure the radiator is working properly & have you run a cleaner thru the motor to clean any gunk out of it ?? suggest you take it to a radiator repair shop and have the end tanks removed and the core roded and then use Water Wetter when you refill it
its a brand new 3 row core it better not need cleaning allready :shock:
the water is quite clear, when i open the top of the tank i can see down to the fins easily

the problem isnt my cooling system as such, the temp gauge never moves when driving or when stopped in traffic the fan can keep things under control easily
just need better cooling when stationary while under heavy load :wink:

tomsun thats just a s4/5 rx7 pic i stole

im guna make a shroud and also space the bonnet and see how it goes

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:58 pm
by TOMSUN
S0LJAH wrote:
tomsun thats just a s4/5 rx7 pic i stole
I thought as much...

I still want to see the burnout photos :D

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:17 pm
by JD_Stazza_Brendan
you know the condition of the water pump? and last time thermostat was changed?

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:37 pm
by S0LJAH
waterpump and thermostat are both about 2000ks old

everything is new when i did the engine conversion :D

im guna try knock up a shroud at work twomorrow ill post pics if i do

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:47 pm
by OLD FART
JD_Stazza_Brendan wrote:you know the condition of the water pump? and last time thermostat was changed?
Maybe the thermostat isn't opening fully and is ok while the car is moving quickly but can't flow freely enough when under load
SUGGEST
1 try without thermostat & see if problem still exists if it does then it's not the t/stat
2 test existing t/stat in water on stove & see if it opens fully
3 always test new t/stat as above because I have found some
NEW ones to be faulty

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:47 pm
by redzone
S0LJAH wrote: the problem isnt my cooling system as such, the temp gauge never moves when driving or when stopped in traffic the fan can keep things under control easily
just need better cooling when stationary while under heavy load :wink:

YAHTZEE! your problem is airflow related. you need more, or more efficient fans.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:57 pm
by thrash
S0LJAH wrote: just need better cooling when stationary while under heavy load :wink:
hoon :twisted:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:10 pm
by S0LJAH
redzone wrote:
S0LJAH wrote: the problem isnt my cooling system as such, the temp gauge never moves when driving or when stopped in traffic the fan can keep things under control easily
just need better cooling when stationary while under heavy load :wink:

YAHTZEE! your problem is airflow related. you need more, or more efficient fans.
yup im aware of that :D
am after ideas as i can fit another fan on there a single 14 is all it will take

i made up a 20mm deep shroud at work today fitted it up when i got home and it touches my damn front pulley!!

i dunno if a 10mm deep shroud is guna work is it?thats not a alot of are behind it to allow airflow

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:40 pm
by redzone
cant notch the shroud you made??

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:17 pm
by S0LJAH
nah the bit that hits is the middle of the fan

notching it is making it 10mm deep, gotta do the hole thing

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:54 am
by S0LJAH
heres my effort boys

Image


hopefully it does the trick, the fan looks bigger than it is cos its pushed to the lefthand side of the rad to clear the thermostat housing