power steering removal

[S73R]

hey does anyone know wat car i can replace my staz power stering with a non power stering box ....
i have a leeking power stering box and i find the pump is allways in the way of my mods, pump is still good though
will a sigma box drop in??? or a magna???

[fr335tyl3r]

Be a real man! Just take off the lines and plug up the holes (ie, use the same box). Lol its a bitch to drive with but its easy.

[S73R]

is there another way i bought a pump for $300 now the box
leeks reel bad i wanted a easy way out. i cant drift with if i just plug up the
holes (too hard too steer)
i been driving with it like that 4 too long

[fr335tyl3r]

The only time it should feel hard to steer without the PS is when you are at low speed. Drifting through corners should be no problems with a bit of help from a skatey rear end (ie, power oversteer)

[WANTSOM]

You can swap the sigma (Aus Mitsi) manual steering box over as an altrenative to just unplugging the existing Starion one.

Not as heavy or direct though.

[fr335tyl3r]

So the sigma box is a straight drop in (Relatively) greg? What do you mean by the "heavy and direct" comments?

[SIR GSR]

Rather than bothering to take out the whole power steering assembly, just take off the belt that runs it....That way, you can replace it with one when you find one later down the track

[WANTSOM]

Freestyler asked:

What do you mean by the "heavy and direct"

The Starion gearbox (I think) is higher geared so when you disconnect the power steering there is more effort needed to turn the wheel. The Sigma box is lower geared so it requires less effort to turn but requires more turns lock to lock on the wheel. If that makes sense.

[fr335tyl3r]

Anyone have the figures on the gearing of the boxes, and the lock to lock turns?

Also, how much of a direct swap is this? I have been running without PS for a while now and it does shit me in the car parks a little bit (not that I plan on driving it to car parks much anyway, its more of a twisty road car :P). Would be intrigued if its a direct swap as I could grab one and revamp the steering in the car cause despite my best efforts there is still play in the damn steering :P

[flav]

Just get a box...i have one, and move the reservoir to the inner guard.

[cheaterparts]

Anyone have the figures on the gearing of the boxes, and the lock to lock turns?

the gregorys sigma manual has the sigma steer box at

variable ratio
2 point support type 18.5 - 22.51:1
3 point support type 17.2 - 21.2:1

if this is any help
cheater

[tri26t]

Hey all, we have put a gk (analog "LOL") steering box
in a JA, the box is (of cause) shorter at the steering colum
so we used the gk colum as well

All went into the starion without any other changes
even the wiper switch has the same plug.


IT WORKS

Cheers:Phil.

[linx]

Rofl... I did ask a similar question in my thread...

The sigma box is slow compared to the starions. And you will loose some turning circle.

I plan to just plug up the power steering hoses up untill I can make up a bracket to fix the 2.6 litre. If you are still having troubles, I will inform you how I went about changing my steering setup.

[tri26t]

GK sigma steering box in starion is ok
but you dont want to be parking all the time
its a tad heavy (a BIG tad) however it showed
2 deg neg caster and 1.5 camber with 1.5 toe in

kind of reminds me of my old Monaro days
HJ 4dr 350 M21 (rrrrr) no assist

YOU DONT NEED THE GYM to make big musciles
Cheers:Phil.