mitsi turbos?

honest_jim · Post by **honest_jim** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:07 am

could someone tell me what turbo i have on my starion (its a 87 intercooled 2.0L) i really dont understand the code mitsi use to identify their turbos...... Im looking for a new turbo that has to have less lag (this is more important then more power but if it does bot then that would be good).

Would one of these fit without too much bother??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubis ... enameZWD2V

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:53 am

honest_jim wrote:could someone tell me what turbo i have on my starion (its a 87 intercooled 2.0L) i really dont understand the code mitsi use to identify their turbos...... Im looking for a new turbo that has to have less lag (this is more important then more power but if it does bot then that would be good).

This is exactly what I have done. EVO3 type turbo install.
http://austarion.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4922

The EVO3 turbo is fantastic. Check out "EVOIII turbo install" on http://starion.mrbdesign.com.au
There are a few things you have to change around. Also no way the factory computer would cope with it.

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:43 am

NB: 'EVO3 GT' is the Made in China rip off of the MHI TD05-16G 070 (as used on the Evolution 3 Lancer), that is NOT a Mitsubishi turbocharger in that auction, its a fake, and a poorly made one. While apparently they have made improvements to the 'fall off your manifold' turbo, I still wouldn't touch it after seeing the low quality control levels.

Do not be fooled by cheap prices. Avoid:

- SSAutoChrome
- XSPower
- MasterPower
- EVO3 GT

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:10 am

SpidersWeb wrote:NB: 'EVO3 GT' is the Made in China rip off of the MHI TD05-16G 070 (as used on the Evolution 3 Lancer), that is NOT a Mitsubishi turbocharger in that auction, its a fake, and a poorly made one. While apparently they have made improvements to the 'fall off your manifold' turbo, I still wouldn't touch it after seeing the low quality control levels.

Do not be fooled by cheap prices. Avoid:

- SSAutoChrome
- XSPower
- MasterPower
- EVO3 GT

Actually it's interesting that particular turbo is not made in China. There is a copy sold by ssautochrome which is and is no good. The EVO3 GT is ok by all accounts. I have spoken to suppliers in the US and they have sold hundreds with no returns. They are not cheap anyway same price as MHI EVO3 on www.turbochargers.com web site. Same old story it costs money to do it properly no matter who makes it.
Do you honestly think that turbochargers.com one of the biggest Mitsubishi turbo distributors in the US would sell something that was crap :roll: They got that turbo made because Mitsubishi would not build custom stuff for them. It actually exceeds all MHI specs it's actually a better turbo than genuine!

SpidersWeb · Post by **SpidersWeb** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:35 am

Yeah that was the one item in that list that I hadnt talked to turbo experts about, and I was basing it on that SlowBoy Racing article. I see turbochargers.com is claiming it as fake, and from browsing around I see more positive things being said (by people who bought it) than negative. So I'll agree with you and just shuttup :)

But honestly I am still a little bit suspicious, no brand name and the turbo itself was named in a way that would create confusion to increase sales - even a fake MHI product code! It just smells fishy to me.

But at the end of the day, like you said 'no returns' and from the many posts I was just searching through, pretty much everyone with the EVO3 GT seemed quite happy. So with that said, it must actually be a good turbo. The turbochargers.com defense clearly shows that its a good turbo as well (which wasnt available when I first saw the SBR article).

SlowBoy Racing Page: http://www.slowboyracing.com/evo3vsgt.htm
Turbochargers.com Defense: http://www.turbochargers.com/Evo3GT.htm

My apologies honest_jim - you can just ignore my original post

toysrus · Post by **toysrus** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:02 pm

To clear up some of the confusion, the reason why SlowBoy Racing is spreading rumours about the 'Evo GT' Turbo and why Forced Performance is also not selling them, is because both SlowBoy and FP have bad blood between themselves and TurboChargers.com which is the reason why the manufacturer of the Evo GT Turbo, (i.e. TurboChargers.com) is not selling the Evo GT Turbo's wholesale to SlowBoy and FP

mrb1, what is the % Nickel content in the genuine MHI Evo III Turbos' Exhaust Housing ?

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:47 pm

Hey and another very interesting thing is I found out the owner of slowboy used to work at turbochargers.com!
Put's an interesting twist on it

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:53 pm

toysrus wrote:To clear up some of the confusion, the reason why SlowBoy Racing is spreading rumours about the 'Evo GT' Turbo and why Forced Performance is also not selling them, is because both SlowBoy and FP have bad blood between themselves and TurboChargers.com which is the reason why the manufacturer of the Evo GT Turbo, (i.e. TurboChargers.com) is not selling the Evo GT Turbo's wholesale to SlowBoy and FP

That's right there's usually a bit more below the surface when you start to look into this sort of thing.

mrb1, what is the % Nickel content in the genuine MHI Evo III Turbos' Exhaust Housing ?

Not sure?

Bangbus · Post by **Bangbus** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:27 pm

But if he wants less lag......... maybe a highflowed td04? td04/05 or something?

mrb1 · Post by **mrb1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:01 pm

Bangbus wrote:But if he wants less lag......... maybe a highflowed td04? td04/05 or something?

The EVO3 turbo gives awesome spool. It just transforms the car.

fr335tyl3r · Post by **fr335tyl3r** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:44 pm

I can confirm this awesome spool. Went for a spin in marks car on the weekend, that thing is a beast

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