Air Filter

GaryLingham · Post by **GaryLingham** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:27 pm

How do you go about hooking up a aftermarket pod filter instead of having the air box with the sensor??

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:15 pm

Difficult to achieve & gives you no extra performance..

Sargeant_Khan · Post by **Sargeant_Khan** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:38 pm

probably easier to obtain/replace than the stock one though dave?

FST4RD · Post by **FST4RD** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:04 am

Cut most of the airbox out and wire it up. I bought my starion with this done and it works fine. Here's a pic:

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:14 am

Sargeant_Khan wrote:probably easier to obtain/replace than the stock one though dave?

nah any parts shop should supply easy, as long as u dont go to supercheap or autobarn which are staffed by people resembling the spotty voice breaking teen from the simpsons!

i ran 13.8 with a stock uncut airbox on my first JA, just disconnected the air feed from the guard and ran a cold air pipe to it..

vr4gone · Post by **vr4gone** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:11 pm

Make your own.

GaryLingham · Post by **GaryLingham** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:10 pm

Are you still running the sensor or have you bypassed it?

vr4gone · Post by **vr4gone** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:00 pm

I'm running one of these MAF translators

with a GM LS2 sensor

The beauty of this set up is you can run the MAF post intercooler and
atmospherically vent a CBV,if you run one, without effecting your emissions... mmmm upstairs for thinkin', I say :)

GaryLingham · Post by **GaryLingham** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:15 pm

So this will bypass the other sensor completely? will you have to re map for this?

vr4gone · Post by **vr4gone** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:43 pm

You don't have to re-map your ECU and yes you get rid of the kharman vortex AFM. I also run a jaycar FCD to combat the boost limit. I strongly suggest using an A/F ratio gauge (wide band) to tune it in.

http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:09 am

running a vent to atmo bov will still affect emissions, namely crankcase ventilation, and also turbo's always emit SOME oil into the air coming out of them, so it'll fail on that count too..

vr4gone · Post by **vr4gone** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:10 pm

redzone wrote:running a vent to atmo bov will still affect emissions, namely crankcase ventilation, and also turbo's always emit SOME oil into the air coming out of them, so it'll fail on that count too..

Perhaps under emissions laws in QLD. So you're telling
me you can't tune a starion using a post turbo AFM
arrangement & still running the factory PVC system to comply
with emission laws pre 1986 which is all you're legally bound
to abide by? Honestly? Now...., hands up who owns a starion
that would pass an emissions test in their state tomorrow?

Technically if you had to put it over the pits, the engineers would
fail you on either noise or the standard (For off road use only)
My vr4 is registered and engineered in N.S.W with the identical
set up. My Hybrid GT spec IC and aftermarket IC piping is also
on the same engineers report. 14 pages last time I checked.

Have I poked the hornets nest yet

redzone · Post by **redzone** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:46 pm

vr4gone wrote:
redzone wrote:running a vent to atmo bov will still affect emissions, namely crankcase ventilation, and also turbo's always emit SOME oil into the air coming out of them, so it'll fail on that count too..

Perhaps under emissions laws in QLD. So you're telling
me you can't tune a starion using a post turbo AFM
arrangement & still running the factory PVC system to comply
with emission laws pre 1986 which is all you're legally bound
to abide by? Honestly? Now...., hands up who owns a starion
that would pass an emissions test in their state tomorrow?

Technically if you had to put it over the pits, the engineers would
fail you on either noise or the standard (For off road use only)
My vr4 is registered and engineered in N.S.W with the identical
set up. My Hybrid GT spec IC and aftermarket IC piping is also
on the same engineers report. 14 pages last time I checked.

Have I poked the hornets nest yet

No, you've just shown how little you know..

In qld, they dont test for exhaust emissions. a simple check under the bonnet will show if a car has all it's pollution gear hooked up though.

Positive crankcase ventilation is an ADR, THAT is the reason vent to atmosphere BOV's are illegal on cars/engine's made after 1974..

vr4gone · Post by **vr4gone** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:47 am

redzone wrote:
vr4gone wrote:
redzone wrote:running a vent to atmo bov will still affect emissions, namely crankcase ventilation, and also turbo's always emit SOME oil into the air coming out of them, so it'll fail on that count too..

No, you've just shown how little you know..

In qld, they dont test for exhaust emissions. a simple check under the bonnet will show if a car has all it's pollution gear hooked up though.

Positive crankcase ventilation is an ADR, THAT is the reason vent to atmosphere BOV's are illegal on cars/engine's made after 1974..

So the Hornets are out.. nice. Doesn't the PVC valve route straight into the inlet manifold on a starion? Anyway this is how little I know. Currently ADR79/02 covers cars from 1972, not 1974 and
ADR27B, ADR27C+ and ADR37/00 are the emission rules that cover from 1/1/1982 - 1/2/1986. These are the federal rules that engineers will reference against any state rules to determine the if a light vehicle built before 1989 is legal. I suggest you check the reference in regards to vehicles built pre 1989. Now run along and "Tony Abbott" some other topic.

NachoMan · Post by **NachoMan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:11 am

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