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tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:50 am

Hi there ,
I have a 2 litre ,year 1982 starion ,english spec. won't start ,I found out by removing the injector top housing, that, when turning on ignition without turning the engine over both the injectors weep fuel , on turning engine over, it does spray out of one injector which I think is normal,
If I disconnect the injector electric multiplug the injectors stop weeping. Can someone please give me advice as this message is from the south east of England and it's freezing standing in my garage ! :?

OLD FART · Post by **OLD FART** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:47 am

Hello and welcome to Austarion :beer
I'm not familiar with "English spec " so if you can advise if the injector hat has ECI on the top it will give the more cluey members here a better idea on the best way to help

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:53 am

Thanks for reply, Yes mine has ECI on top of injector housing, and it's , 1 centigrade about 34 fah. outside 8.52 pm Tuesday, hope it's warmer where you are , I appreciate your help
Regards Tony

OLD FART · Post by **OLD FART** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:02 am

tony45 wrote:Thanks for reply, Yes mine has ECI on top of injector housing, and it's , 1 centigrade about 34 fah. outside 8.52 pm Tuesday, hope it's warmer where you are , I appreciate your help
Regards Tony

Hi Tony It seeme that you have what is in Aussie spec a JA Starion
Predicted to be 34 deg c/grade today

Post by **Alspos** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:29 am

Where is it weeping fuel from? The centre of the injector or around the sides?
How long has the car been sitting etc? Leaking injectors shouldn't stop it from starting, it will make it run like crap when it does.
Got spark etc?

P.S. Welcome aboard. 39 C predicted here today :D

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:58 am

Hi Alspos,
The leak is from the centre of the injectors,when ignition just turned on, but turned over before to pressurize system.
With ignition still On and disconnecting injector electrical plug ,leak stops , so as the fuel is still under pressure I have assumed the problem is not injectors.

ps.I called out the RAC which is a breakdown service here in UK , after he messed about with it and couldn't start it , the next day I dipped the engine oil , (overfall) I drained engine oil/petrolin it, approx. 10 litres!!!? so you can see how bad it floods.

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:20 am

Hi there, The spec.I have is simalar to yours in Australia ,is there anyone inAussie land that can help me out ?

PS. God it's cold in my garage ,and it snowed today, so much for Global Warming , it's unusual for ( to snow )being 300metres from the North Sea.

Post by **Alspos** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:39 am

Measure the resistance of the injectors (go across the pins on the connector) if it's zero or infinite (can't remember which one off hand) the injector is rooted and when running will stay wide open. May be part of the problem.

Failing that, have a look through these and see if anything relates to your issue.

http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.p ... ight=oring
http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.p ... ight=oring
http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.p ... ight=oring

P.S - Get a heater.

someguy · Post by **someguy** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:52 pm

welcome to the wonderfull world of Starions tony45.

I've been having starting problems too. It began as a warm start issue:
http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.php?t=12053

then continued:
http://forums.austarion.com/viewtopic.php?t=12126

At least you're in the garage, I was just out working on it in the rain & now I'm back to plain old no start again.

good luck & hopefully we can get back on the road soon with the help of the nice people in here
:beer

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:52 am

Hi there guys , Alspos and Someguy,
Thanks for info I really appreciate it, your help,my son and I are going to look at your ideas ,over this weekend , if I have recovered from my day in hospital (don't believe everything you hear about how bad our health service is it's free from birth until you die) ,except you do have to pay tax during your working life and pay for drugs when you visit your local doctor, .Sorry about that last blurb .
Kindest Regards Tony
PS. we have 150 mm of snow and it's minus 6 centigrade outside 8pm friday.

enthuzed · Post by **enthuzed** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:28 am

tony45 wrote: we have 150 mm of snow and it's minus 6 centigrade outside 8pm friday.

Perfect weather for fixing a tempermental car. Go nuts!

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:59 am

We think we have found our non-start problem ,the screen frame on the l/h side has rusted badly and water has got into the ECU.

tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:50 am

This is the weather for repairing our Starion! Keeps us cool!!
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tony45 · Post by **tony45** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:54 am

This is the weather for repairing our Starion! Keeps us cool!!
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OLD FART · Post by **OLD FART** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:24 am

Hey Tony thats why most of the smart poms are in Australia now :) :beer

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