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narrow dellow bellhousing w58
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:58 pm
by greenstaz82
can someone tell me what flywheel is used for the narrow block dellow housing ? im running the vr4 flywheel and vr4 starter motor . The starter motor is just free spinning and not engaging :x . ive heard l300 is maybe the one to use ? . i rang the dude at dellow and he reckons is should all marry up to standard flywheel and starter ... but yeh doesnt seem that way .
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:22 pm
by OLD FART
Are you sure that the drive pinion is extending as the starter can make a whiring noise without the pinion gear moving to mesh with the ring gear?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:49 pm
by greenstaz82
yeah i looked into that by trying 2 different starters with no cure , u can here it click then spin , im guessing the clicking is the cog engaging . i held the twincam dust plate up over the bellhousing before installing and the starter holes were slighty out which now makes me think i need a different flywheel then what ive got ( vr4) .
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:44 am
by MrBishi
My guess is that the Dellow stuff is designed for 2L sigma (4G52) flywheel and starter. I don't know of any difference between the diameters of narrow block flywheels, but it may be worth checking.
I'll have a scratch around for a sigma flywheel in the pile, but I don't think I have one to measure.
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:53 am
by kiwi_EX
From reading the comments from Bill Hincher on the Zero G forums the AWD and FWD flywheels might be different (he talks about changing his W5x adapter to suit the AWD flywheel as opposed to the FWD flywheel).
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:29 pm
by Lummy
What is stamped onto your Dellow housing? It will have an identifying stamp at the top.
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:43 pm
by thrash
haven't you had your conversion for a while now? is this a new problem that's started showing up or has it been happening the entire time?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:37 pm
by greenstaz82
MrBishi wrote:My guess is that the Dellow stuff is designed for 2L sigma (4G52) flywheel and starter. I don't know of any difference between the diameters of narrow block flywheels, but it may be worth checking.
I'll have a scratch around for a sigma flywheel in the pile, but I don't think I have one to measure.
i think ive got it sussed out , i dug out an old l200 5speed and mocked it up with a vr4 flywheel and starter and starter is way off . i held up the twincam dust plate to the l200 bellhousing and is shows the same thing as what the delllow housing did , si my guess is that the l200 flywheel is slightly bigger then vr4 to make up the distance to the starter .
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:55 pm
by greenstaz82
thrash wrote:haven't you had your conversion for a while now? is this a new problem that's started showing up or has it been happening the entire time?
yeah ive had the supra box in it for a while with an adapter plate and supra bellhousing but ive had alot of dramas with the slave and the travel on the pedal , it was a bastard to get gears and started making grinding noises . over all it wasnt a very good setup cause i could never find the correct slave ,fork etc for the bellhousing (1ggte ) and i ended up just trying to utilize other stuff plus i think it also has an alignment isssue cause the mark on the pressure plate fingers from the throwout was not even and over to one side . so yeah i thought a dellow housing and bits would be a qiuck fix lol
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:20 pm
by Adriano
Im fairly certain the AWD ringgear is smaller than an L300 flywheel to allow for the transfer case
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:27 pm
by redzone
yeah dude you 100% positively need a sigma/scorpion 2.0 flywheel, starter motor is identical.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:27 pm
by greenstaz82
are they the same as a l300 flywheel ?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:27 am
by greenstaz82
thanks for the info fellas . Well i got it all up and running with another flywheel and all seemed good for a few days , drove nice with no noise . Then it all turned bad last saturday afternoon
. The clutch pedal went all funny and started engaging off the floor and car was shuttering quite badly so i jacked it up when i got home and found thats the clutch fork pivot point had snapped off the bellhousing , not the pivot ball but the casting tag on the bellhousing :x . Probably something people should watch on these dellow housings is clearance around pivot point casting to the input shaft housing bolts , they foul when bellhousing is tighten up . After having mine welded back on i fixed this problem by just taking a bit off the back edge with a grinder so it had clearance . Another problem that had to be sorted was the travel and angle of the fork , basicly when the throwout bearing came in contact with the clutch fingers the fork was on a 45 degree angle then when pushed by the slave is extended further back and was touching the edge of the bellhousing cut out . You can adjust the pivot point out to improve the angle but only so far so i had a mate turn up a 15 mm spacer that presses onto the throwout bearing holder first then the bearing onto the front of that . It brought the fork back to a 90 degree angle . im currently putting it back together and will post up again and let u all know how it went , ive spoken to tomvr4 who did this conversion to his old car and reckons he ran into the same sorta problems . so it might be something to look out for when doing this conversion as there is a few things thats need attention .
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:56 pm
by TomVR4
yeah i adjusted my pivot point almost right out and the adjustable slave cylinder rod adjusted right to the end too. Seems like something that should be fixed.